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Defiant Noquisi Jul 4th, 2004 5:39 AM

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Originally Posted by stewey
According to my sister, he is French.

That still doesnt tell me what "French" is supposed to look like. I mean, wtf, I look way more white than Indian and people dont realize that there were and are fair skinned Indians too. Yet they have to tell me all the time that I dont look "Indian".

RavenWhitefang Jul 4th, 2004 4:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Wraith13
And as far as stealing any election, right Gore is more guilty of trying that, only wanting recounts in Florida democratic counties where he got beat. Bush had the electoral votes, and thats how the election process works. Can't wait for the french looking John Kerry to try the same thing.

Im sure that it was more televised than any other state, considering Jeb is Georges brother. Also with the mistrust of Bush anyways, it made him look better in the end which is total bs. Reminded me of the movie Black Sheep.

dutchie Jul 5th, 2004 7:05 AM

Assuming there would be such a person as the Antichrist, I would think it to be a being of some intelligence.

Exit Bush :devsmoke:

Defiant Noquisi Jul 5th, 2004 8:38 AM

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Originally Posted by dutchie
Exit Bush :devsmoke:

Bahahahaha!!! Spot ON Dutchie! :Llol:

CDOG572 Jul 11th, 2004 5:46 PM

Why does the Anti-chrisd have to be a genious.It doesn't take genious to gain world power ....Just the right intent and the right position of power.

stewey Jul 12th, 2004 12:47 AM

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That still doesnt tell me what "French" is supposed to look like. I mean, wtf, I look way more white than Indian and people dont realize that there were and are fair skinned Indians too. Yet they have to tell me all the time that I dont look "Indian".
I can tell a difference between people from different countries, for the most part. I would guess French is "supposed to look like": dark hair, deep facial expressions, kind of long chin. Then again I am not exactly mr expert on French appearances :D

dutchie Jul 12th, 2004 2:22 AM

BWAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a load of crap!!! What do you think the Dutch look like then?!? Or the Germans? Ever heard of a "scientist" called Lombroso? He thought he knew what a "criminal" looked like!!

stewey Jul 12th, 2004 2:55 AM

Well face it, people from certain ethnic backgrounds look different. I should hope you notice a difference between a Japanese person and a Russian. The same can be said for people from France and Spain, or England and Germany.

dutchie Jul 12th, 2004 4:59 AM

That's why the Americans use the word "caucasian" when describing the European type. And the Caucasus (Mountaineous Region in former Russia) type of people are thought to be the "ur"-type of the European.

We make a distinction between the mediterranean type and the northern European type. I really would NOT be able to tell the difference between the looks of an Englishman, a Dutchman or a German. And I would not be able to tell the difference between a Spaniard, a Greek or an Italian. The divisions are more latitudal.

I can understand that this a strange concept for the melting pot that the USA is. Would you be able to see the difference between a person from Maine, or someone from southern Florida? While the distances are much greater...

DontBeAfraid Jul 12th, 2004 5:27 AM

I can tell the difference between someone from the trailer park and someone from the avenues down the street.

stewey Jul 12th, 2004 5:29 AM

Actually though, there is a difference between people that are of French ancestry and German ancestry, for example, in appearence. I can also tell a difference between Korean and Japanese and Chinese and Laotian. Then again Wisconsin is a hotbed of European ancestry and Asian ancestry, could be a real good reason why.

Defiant Noquisi Jul 13th, 2004 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CDOG572
Why does the Anti-chrisd have to be a genious.It doesn't take genious to gain world power ....Just the right intent and the right position of power.

I dont know about the "right" intent part since it wouldnt seem very right to me. Considering our current administration all it takes is a few puppet masters and a figurehead for everyone to place the blame on. :yikes:

Defiant Noquisi Jul 13th, 2004 3:46 PM

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Originally Posted by stewey
I can tell a difference between people from different countries, for the most part. I would guess French is "supposed to look like": dark hair, deep facial expressions, kind of long chin. Then again I am not exactly mr expert on French appearances :D

I dont know what his ethnicity is but to me you just described Jay Leno in his younger years. OMG!! Could Leno be the anti-christ? :yikes:

truthseeker777 Jul 22nd, 2004 1:50 PM

is GWB is the ANTICHRIST?
 
Have you seen this Nostradamus forum that discusses the 3rd antichrist?

http://www.nostramusic.com/phorum/re...=2&i=223&t=223

and this is a good article to read:

http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id580.html

dcookcan Jul 22nd, 2004 2:37 PM

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George Bush, king of terror = antichrist, is at the helm. The self proclaimed born-again christian is doing the unspeakable unchristian deeds and this identifies him as the "anti"christ.
You need to take closer look at history my friend. Christians have been doing this for a long, long time. Ever heard of the crusades? There is a reason the Muslem countries are calling the war in Iraq a crusade.

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Everything Mr. Bush is observed doing is carefully staged. Everything he says is carefully programmed. It is all designed to portray him as a great leader of a nation under duress.
I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. Bush is a puppet.

BTW nice pictures in that last article.

truthseeker777 Aug 4th, 2004 12:49 PM

The apocalypse is now and GW Bush the antichrist
 
1. Nostradamus scholars have told us that he predicted 3 antichrists: the 1st was Napoleon and the 2nd Hitler. Antichrists come to power in western nations that are waning economically but are military powerhouses. Likewise, America is a waning economic power that is turning to global imperialism as a way to hold and expand power and create jobs. Political cycles tend to repeat. The third antichrist will follow in the footsteps of the former antichrists. Nowhere does the bible say that the antichrist will be from Russia, EU, or the middle east. It is Hal Lindsey generated urban myth that the antichrist is from outside the US.
http://nostradamus.time-loops.net/FrenchAntiChrist2.htm

2. A main tenet of "end-times" prediction is that most christians will be unable to recognize the antichrist because the church will be apostate. American christians are a perfect example of apostate christians, they support the satanic policies of military interventionism which are precisely opposite of Christ's teachings. Caught up in materialistic values, they ignore the horrific suffering of bombed nations while driving around in their gas guzzling SUV's with near zero awareness of the satanic state policies. Michael Moore's movie Fahrenheit 911 is the "shock and awe" to their feeble minds.
http://www.patriotist.com/miscarch/pp20020408.htm

3. A dumbed down people that believes in the shallow lie of the "war on terrorism" while criminal oil executives posing as political leaders invade oil rich nation states. America is ripe for destruction by a new antichrist because many absolutely refuse to wake up and deal with the current political crisis of a national security state being installed over the constitutional republic. http://www.rense.com/general54/msmsi.htm
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/ http://dieoff.org/

4. George Bush is the easily manipulated apocalytic born-again who actually thinks he is doing god's work. Bush has developed a "roadmap" for Israeli peace. This makes Bush the antichrist according to biblical scholars because the antichrist is the one who makes the covenent with the Jews. What is the sole nation provides for the protection of Israel? The United States. Logic dictates that the current or future president of the United States will be the antichrist.
http://www.mychristiansite.com/minis...roadpeace.html

5. The apocalypse is now! Current events in Iraq are proof that the apocalypse is not some future event. Thousands of tons of depleted uranium pollute Iraq and babies born with deformities are common. Iraqi's are being tortured by none other than the satanic "beast system" right now. No rapture of christians occurred, in fact it the evangelical christians who have cozied up to antichrist Bush. If we are in the tribulation, then who is the leader creating the tribulation? It is George W. Bush and that makes him the antichrist.

dcookcan Aug 4th, 2004 4:15 PM

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If we are in the tribulation, then who is the leader creating the tribulation? It is George W. Bush and that makes him the antichrist.
If we follow this logic, then the Moslems are the elect of God because they are the ones who are suffering.

Dhanishta Aug 4th, 2004 8:33 PM

Truthseeker777 your article has some merit and is worth investigating further. But what I want to ask is, if George Bush is the antichrist,{a christian concept}, then what will happen if he loses the presidential election? Will he still have any power to even be an antichrist? If he truly is the antichrist then one of the following should occur:-

1. The apocalypse including the death of a third or two thirds of mankind should happen either before the presidential election this year or within the next 4 years if he wins {or steals} office again. It is the nature of the beast to be a thief.

2. He will attempt to implement some kind of barcode or micro chip implant under the skin for each person in the guise of an ID card, etc,thus giving people the 'Mark of the Beast'. This may replace credit cards one day.

3. It is said that the beast will have a fatal wound which will be miraculously cured. Well if an asasination attempt is made on him and he's miraculously cured then I might start worrying.

Most likely, he's just another person of demoniac mentality in a long line of fools who prep their egos at the cost of everything else!

truthseeker777 Aug 5th, 2004 12:52 PM

Those are good questions and I will be first to discard the theory that GW Bush is the infamous third antichrist if someone else becomes the President of the US, but this is unlikely because the 2000 election was a presidential coup d' etat and 9-11-2001 a further military coup against the american constitutional republic. The neoCON's are simply not going to give up the throne, especially since their politics is treasonous and they could be criminally prosecuted if out of power. They are more likely to become ever more insane and vicious like Hitler.

If Bush and company are removed from power, I will then keep looking at the Presidency as the source of the antichrist because the beast system has to part of the worlds remaining military superpower. I do not believe that the beast-antichrist can come from the middle east because it is impossible for that region to project a world government. All their military equipment is bought from elsewhere with oil money. Only an industrial superpower can produce a military superpower.

I absolutely do not "believe" in the bible as "truth" or as a book to look to for historical accuracy. It is a book of fables and ancient myths reworked. Noah's Ark, Jonah's whale? Pure myth. I know many christians who sincerely believe that the earth is 6,000 years old, although most of them have no idea that number originated from Bishop Usher in 1645 who calculated that the earth started exactly on Oct 26th, 4004 BCE. Modern day christian fundamentalists are not well read. The whole idea of fundamentalism is to discard reason and put the mind in a state of faith. I often say that faith is the green pasture the mind is put to rest.

Likewise revelations as fact is nonsense. Is there going to be a rapture - apocalypse - second coming? If enough people believe in it, yes. If I tell you the future with perfect certainty and you believe me, then that becomes reality because the human mind is creating the whole illusion. Most can not accept that responsibility so they hang their badge of uncertainty on god's neck.

Dhanishta Aug 6th, 2004 3:16 AM

Truthseeker777, I can see your point about the antichrist beast being more likely to come from a super power nation with the right technology for obtaining control. I myself am not a christian and nor do I believe in the absolute truth of the book of revelation. I do however keep an open mind to the possibility of some truth being in the bible.

If you were to look at the fanaticism of many believers in Islam and the anti American sentiment around the world, you might see that there is a possibility that an antichrist type figure might come from a muslim background or country. People in the middle east will follow blindly anyone these days that's anti christian or anti american. Does anti christian mean anti christ? - someone against the teachings of christ?

So Im not sure if you should only look to america as producing the anti christ dictator. It is possible that a harsh dictator could arise in the middle east, especially in todays political turmoil in that region. I dont discount anything and it wouldn't surprise me either.

stewey Aug 6th, 2004 3:52 AM

Napoleon, while bad, was not nearly as bad as other dictators. If going by the definition of AntiChrist for "world domination", there are quite a few others that could fit the bill a lot better: Genghis Khan, Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Mao Zedong, to name a few.

If going by "kill lots of innocent people", Napoleon isn't even close to the top. Stalin, Mao and Kim Sung Il take the cake there.

stewey Aug 6th, 2004 3:54 AM

I read one paragraph and instantly knew it was false:

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Both Hitler and Napoleon were leaders of the most powerful nations at their time. They had the will and the means to achieve their goals no matter the cost and the consequences. They were able to sell their ideas to their followers and convince whole nations to participate in their plans.
Germany was far from the most powerful nation. USSR, China, Japan and USA were all far more powerful.

playmaker88 Aug 6th, 2004 6:24 AM

Choose your words carefully
 
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Originally Posted by stewey
Germany was far from the most powerful nation. USSR, China, Japan and USA were all far more powerful.

On formation in 1922 the USSR was nowhere near the might of the USSR of the 50's and 60's. The Japanese had surpressed the Chinese at this time and were a constant thorn in the side to the Russian fleet. To say that China and the USSR were "FAR MORE POWERFUL" than Germany at this time is :bs:

Germany was not THE most powerful country in the world but they were a major player.

As for the apocalypse being now and George W Bush being the anti-Christ, please get a grip people. Stewey, you don't need to make such sweeping statements to blow this b#ll#cks theory out of the water.

truthseeker777 Aug 6th, 2004 1:28 PM

Here's agood article I found on the web.

"The Die Is Cast For Armageddon" http://perdurabo10.tripod.com/id922.html

disclaimer: I'm not endorsing this article but it seems logical.

I have observed that most people are toxified by corporate food, religious and television programming, demonic music lyrics, and enviromental toxins like auto exhaust. Everyday I see more tatoos covering the skin. I see that many are rabid for war, obviously they want to die.

I postulate that the (christian) myth is so powerful their minds are hopelessly trapped and they are going crazy trying to be released from the psychic bondage and thus are committing collective suicide as a way out. I think that the american culture has a collective death wish becasue of the religious programming. Americans are going to vote for GW Bush, he is their man, the apocalytic born-again nutcase leading them into armaggeddon. That is why Bush is the antichrist, he's the one that triggers the apocalypse.

If people want to live they will move toward organic food, clean (non-chlorinated) water, healthy lifestyles, peaceful music, high fuel economy, and energy efficiency. Survival means moving toward a pollution free sustainable future and it also means giving up the false religious programming that created the crisis.

The death sentence to world civilization can be averted by moving toward higher consciousness. People must evolve out of ego based consiousness. They must move toward simple, sustainabled lifestyles that do not include gas guzzling HumVee trucks.

kur Aug 6th, 2004 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by truthseeker777
The death sentence to world civilization can be averted by moving toward higher consciousness. People must evolve out of ego based consiousness. They must move toward simple, sustainabled lifestyles that do not include gas guzzling HumVee trucks.

but in all truthfulness, if, assuming bush is the third antichrist, would we be able to prevent armageddon? convincing the world that he is would be quite a task, and convincing them to give up their lifestyles for a simpler life would also be a large task. the entire modern world revolves around technology, and if thats what we need to give up in order to avert armageddon, then i don't think we can avert it.

just my two cents.


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