Moon/Mars colonies

[Dhanishta]

Read this:

http://www.ufoevidence.org/ForumMessage.asp?lD=10123

Apparently the latest conspiracy theory is that the super rich have already colonized the moon and mars and can travel there whenever they like. The moon and mars are for them only according to this article. Well I say let em have both! One day the air or supplies there might run out and
a] They will kill each other off
or
b] They will not be able to get back to earth
Either way, that will do everyone a favour here on earth. Its good riddance to bad rubbish I say! lol

The first link may not be reliable so you may have to manually find the article in the general ufo forums section titled- "secret bases on the moon".

http://www.ufoevidence.org

[VegasRonin]

First link didn't work for me, and I couldn't find the subject on the page of the other link.

[Dhanishta]

VR go to

http://www.ufoevidence.org/forums/fo...eraldiscussion

The article is about the 6th from the top. I hope this link works. If not its in the general discussion forum.

[marglarg]

Did a search on this guy(Doug Yurchey) who it seems is the author of this article.

He seems to be giving a whole lot of information on a lot of different mysteries etc but not much in the way of proof.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/index_gw.htm#Yurchey

This was an interview he did ...

http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/dy06.htm

But one never knows ... Einstein once said that imagination is more important than knowledge.

[Dhanishta]

good research Marglarg. Its possible that the guy is a fake and has made up these stories. Its difficult to weed out the seeds of truth from the chaff on the internet these days but at least the story was a laugh.

[marglarg]

Yeah ... sometimes it is hard Dhanishta, because I do believe a lot of people experience real events and are privy to real information to which there is simply no proof. This guy could be one of those individuals but how will we ever know?

I think there are governments which have technology that far exceeds what we are aware of -- alternative energy, flying machines and the like. I believe that a large portion of ufo events are in fact of terrestrial/human origin. So his ideas could have some validity. I remember a piece of video footage taken of the moons surface by one of the orbiters that showed some sort of stack coupled with an expulsion of what looked like smoke. Hard to tell with those grainy videos however.

http://shadowboxent.brinkster.net/moon/esjmoon.html

I also remember an article which reported that the moon was in fact hollow:

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com...llowmoon.shtml

I guess for most of us, until we have some hard evidence he will just be another writer talking it up :)

And yes, did have a laugh ... visions of Bill Gates on the dark side of the moon, small finger in mouth ala Doctor Evil plotting Microsoft world domination comes to mind.

[Dhanishta]

Great pic of Bill Gates! He may control the computer world but he can't control the freedom of speech on the internet or our minds....

Hey that smoke stack or thing on the moon is real strange. In the article you provided, it was mentioned that someone said it looked like a projectile being fired or a weapon?? perhaps?

Well there's a lot of stories circulating that the apollo astronauts were warned away from the moon by aliens who have a base there. And thats probably why we've never been back there. The astronauts apparently saw unusual artificial structures and terraces as well as being observed by alien craft. There are actual voice transcripts where they suddenly went into code language with mission control when something was discovered or ufos were nearby. Another thing is that some of the photos have obviously been airbrushed over before general release to the public.

The whole moon thing was, I believe, doctored so as not to alert the general public to the existence of not only extraterrestrial beings but structures of habitation on the moon. The following website is quite convincing and comprehensive and goes far in proving that NASA lied to the public and tried to cover up the truth.

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicphotos.html

Check it out. You will never be so believing of what NASA says again in the future.

This one's for NASA - hehe....

[dutchie]

The moon can not be hollow. It is possible to calculate its mass from its gravitational pull (we did have things orbiting the moon), its orbit around earth, and its size. Given the result, it's impossible for the moon to be hollow - it's sheer nonsense, and there's nothing for NASA to cover up in that respect.

[stewey]

Yeah, it's not possible. First of all, there cannot be smoke on the moon (no atmosphere). Second of all, yeah, Dutchie is correct.

Aliens having a base on the moon would be moot -- if you are smart enough for interstellar travel, you probably need no other base other than your home planet.

I'll go through and debunk it if i get time in the near future. I been busy as hell.

[Dhanishta]

I think the moon would be a perfect place to have an alien base. Easy to check out this planet anytime they want and they can disappear where we can't get at them. How convienient.
As far as the possibility of no smoke due to you saying there's no atmosphere, well who says so? NASA who lie to everyone about space? How do we know the'yre telling the truth? For all we know there might be a thin atmosphere on the moon and that would make it possible to have smoke. It certainly looks like smoke or a projectile in the animation.

I personally don't believe much of anything NASA says. By now you should have realized that most government agencies are incapable of telling the truth and NASA is probably one of the biggest liars out.

[dutchie]

Article on the moon's atmosphere: Moon's atmosphere and Escape velocity

There is in fact an atmosphere on the moon. Its density is however extremely low, far too low to allow smoke. Researchers found that photons of light in wavelengths of about 300 nanometers -- between the colors of deep blue and ultraviolet – accounted for the sodium’s release from the soil and replenishment in the surrounding atmosphere. The gravitation on the moon is however too small to keep this atmosphere near the surface.

[stewey]

Originally Posted by Dhanishta

I think the moon would be a perfect place to have an alien base. Easy to check out this planet anytime they want and they can disappear where we can't get at them. How convienient.
As far as the possibility of no smoke due to you saying there's no atmosphere, well who says so? NASA who lie to everyone about space? How do we know the'yre telling the truth? For all we know there might be a thin atmosphere on the moon and that would make it possible to have smoke. It certainly looks like smoke or a projectile in the animation.

I personally don't believe much of anything NASA says. By now you should have realized that most government agencies are incapable of telling the truth and NASA is probably one of the biggest liars out.

Well, if people with years of research didn't believe them, I may agree with you, but when people who have been working in astrophysics for 30+ years agree, I tend to take their word.

How do you know that we are not all computers, and that we really exist? Me and Dutchie could be bots written by the government to throw everyone off in this topic.

[Dhanishta]

Its possible! who knows anything these days. Theres so much junk out there and deception. And if you are a computer well good for you. No one can control my mind especially the manipulations created by this society. Its healthy to question everything instead of being force fed from birth to the grave.

And if the atmosphere cannot support smoke then what do you think it is? You can't deny that it is something captured on film. If not smoke then what?