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Old Jan 14th, 2010, 2:08 AM   #1
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Monsanto Corn linked to organ failure


In a study released by the International Journal of Biological Sciences, analyzing the effects of genetically modified foods on mammalian health, researchers found that agricultural giant Monsanto's GM corn is linked to organ damage in rats.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_420365.html

It's bad enough that these guys patent seeds, when those seeds propagate to nearby farms, Monsanto sues the nearby farmers for "using" patented seeds, or charges them for the privilege of the invasion.

And that they use child labor. And for terminator genes (maybe) and for the farmer suicides in India.

Now they are rushing through testing (only 90 days, instead of the usual several months) to get their seeds on the market, endangering the public in the process. But hey, when you're a multi-billion dollar corp, you can afford to pay those fines and wrongful death suits, ammirite?
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Old Jan 14th, 2010, 12:58 PM   #2
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In a study released by the International Journal of Biological Sciences, analyzing the effects of genetically modified foods on mammalian health, researchers found that agricultural giant Monsanto's GM corn is linked to organ damage in rats.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/0..._n_420365.html

It's bad enough that these guys patent seeds, when those seeds propagate to nearby farms, Monsanto sues the nearby farmers for "using" patented seeds, or charges them for the privilege of the invasion.

And that they use child labor. And for terminator genes (maybe) and for the farmer suicides in India.

Now they are rushing through testing (only 90 days, instead of the usual several months) to get their seeds on the market, endangering the public in the process. But hey, when you're a multi-billion dollar corp, you can afford to pay those fines and wrongful death suits, ammirite?
Great topic! I have been opposed to genetically modified foods for a long time, particularly in North America where Monsanto has managed to keep any meaningful labeling off of its products. Monsanto loves it's round-up ready crops, but one need only see what actually happens with these crops. Eventually, the effect of the gene splicing is circumvented by nature and the problem this product was allegedly supposed to address reoccurs and farmers often have to buy more pesticide than before. It is a viscious cycle and now Monsanto has been moving into poorer areas of the world trying to strong arm its shabby product onto farmers there. It has decimated much of the industry and farmers, who typically were able to reserve seeds for next years planting, are forced to purchase expensive seeds from Monsanto.

It's horrible and the FDAs failure here to even allow labeling of these products (because as Monsanto and others well know, most consumers would prefer to ingest non-modified food) is really startling. At least in parts of the EU such labeling is mandatory, and regulartory bodies actually listened to the people they are ostensibly there to protect - the consumers.

Monsanto wanted to modify our wheat in Canada. Already, one would be hard pressed to find a virginal canola seed, but wheat had been thus far untouched. Well, our largest buyer, China, said hell, if you guys start doing that to your wheat, we're buying it somewhere else.

So how does Monsanto manage to do this? Just like everything else, lobbiests and kickbacks and backroom deals with lots of greenbacks to grease politician's palms. That's how they do it.

Another interesting little anecedote is how aspartane managed to make it into the market. Google that and Rumsfeld. Disturbing read.
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Old Jan 14th, 2010, 3:44 PM   #3
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And to think, I really like corn on the cob too.....
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Monsanto is the most evil organization ever. They are literally starving people to death so they can make a bigger profit.
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Exactly. I was just going to say entire countries [Candida and China] are suing GM for promising seed yields of 70, 80, 90% when at best the top seeds yield 30% max.
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Old Jan 16th, 2010, 4:37 PM   #6
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Another interesting little anecedote is how aspartane managed to make it into the market. Google that and Rumsfeld. Disturbing read.

It's not just Rumsfeld.

http://gmfoodwatch.tribe.net/thread/...d-74d0bf240d96

"For those who hope Obama will bring something different to the world, we must first see clearly what is happening, and make demands of him that are profound, not show.

Liberals are pleased he may appoint a White House farmer to plant an organic garden. That is empty show.

Meanwhile corporations like Monsanto are moving rapidly to take control of food supplies ... and democracies, including ours. www.dailykos.com/story/2009/...4/736/691835

Obama chose Hillary Clinton to be Secretary of State. We cannot know what deals were struck to make her stop her destructive campaigning long after it was apparent she had lost. But we do know that Mark Penn, CEO for Burson-Marsteller, one of the world's large PR firms representing Monsanto. www.corporatewatch.org.uk/ advised her for years and ran her campaign. And when she showed up again, by Obama's side, suddenly so did a man named Michael Taylor ... also again.

MIchael Taylor is a Monsanto lawyer Bill Clinton once put in charge of the FDA where he approved Monsanto's rBGH. Hillary was back, and Obama was putting Taylor on his transition team. www.organicconsumers.org/article...5710.cfm

Using the transition team's advice, Obama appointed Tom Vilsack to head the USDA, overriding 20,000 opposing "grassroots" emails. The objection to Vilsack? His deep Monsanto connections. www.organicconsumers.org/article...5573.cfm
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And how about the thousands of farmers in India that were poisoned by their chemicals and deceived into contracts which were a sly land grab? Monsanto pretty much owns the agriculture in India.

Question remains: How do we stop this? The information has been "out there" for a long time. People have talked, the word has been spread. What now? Do we just continue to let them take over, rape poor countries, and poison those of us who are left?

Our system has failed us. Are there any who are not corrupt?
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Old Jan 16th, 2010, 8:57 PM   #8
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It's horrible and the FDAs failure here to even allow labeling of these products (because as Monsanto and others well know, most consumers would prefer to ingest non-modified food) is really startling. At least in parts of the EU such labeling is mandatory, and regulartory bodies actually listened to the people they are ostensibly there to protect - the consumers.


So how does Monsanto manage to do this? Just like everything else, lobbiests and kickbacks and backroom deals with lots of greenbacks to grease politician's palms. That's how they do it.

Any chance we could ever get names of any of these back room individuals?
Maybe it's time to name names and call individuals into account.
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Fears grow as study shows genetically modified crops 'can cause liver and kidney damage'

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Fresh fears were raised over GM crops yesterday after a study showed they can cause liver and kidney damage.

According to the research, animals fed on three strains of genetically modified maize created by the U.S. biotech firm Monsanto suffered signs of organ damage after just three months.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz0dIM8w7yD




Didn't a congresswoman form CT... De Lauro, the sponsor of HR 875, the (so called) Food Safety Modernization Act, have a husband employed by Monsanto...
Did he later become the food czar?

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Monsanto Uses Congresswoman DeLauro To OUTLAW Organic Farming ...
Monsanto Uses Congresswoman DeLauro To OUTLAW Organic Farming and Backyard Gardeners ... The husband of the Congresswoman who introduced HR875 founded the ...
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin...es;read=143854 - Cached
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Lose Your Property for Growing Food? - WildChild Magazine
Lose Your Property for Growing Food? Seems that Congresswoman Rosa De Lauro, the sponsor of HR 875, the (so called) Food Safety Modernization Act, has a husband ...
shiloka.ning.com/forum/topics/.../showLastReply - 69k - Cached
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snopes.com: Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009
Stanley Greenberg is not a Monsanto employee; he's the chairman and CEO of Greenberg-Quinlan Research Inc. ... Greenberg, husband of Connecticut Democratic Congresswoman Rosa ...
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Let's Panic: Or No More Organic!!! " The Bee-Log
Who is Connecticut Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro and why would she introduce HR 875? ... Monsanto is also by far the leading producer of genetically engineered (GE) seed, holding ...
cousinrichie.com/2009/03/24/let%E2%80%99s-panic-or-no-mor... - Cached
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HR 875 - Not the End of Organic Farming
Connecticut congresswoman Rosa DeLauro proposed the bill, purportedly to address ... Since Monsanto's mainstay is producing genetically modified crops, the critics ...
http://www.healthiertalk.com/hr-875-...c-farming-0483 -

Who need a war to kill Americans...
Just pass laws forcing them to eat Monsanto's poisoned food...



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The fact is that this has undermined the countries security. The individuals that control this company should be charged with treason against the people of the state and put against the wall and shot as a warning to others who would be so foolish.

The whole company scrapped and all the seeds burned with the personal estates of those that did this being used to pay compensation to the families that remain of the farmers that have lost everything due to this company.
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Didn't a congresswoman form CT... De Lauro, the sponsor of HR 875, the (so called) Food Safety Modernization Act, have a husband employed by Monsanto...
Did he later become the food czar?
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Is that Tom Vilsack? The one Obama appointed?
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One small correction do.

Its not genetic modification itself that is that is causing the organ failure.
But an side effect of the artificial mutation. Which was oriented at improving the plants ability to absorb or produce insecticide and herbicide.

This shows however that Genetic modification in food is not scientifically reliable enough to be used commercially. As we have to little understanding of what is going on exactly. And the mutations can not be undone as it very likely has spread to non GM crops as well.
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Is that Tom Vilsack? The one Obama appointed?
That says he's the current U.S. Secretary of Agriculture.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vilsack




http://www.examiner.com/x-6495-US-In...fety-hen-house
Former Monsanto vice president Michael Taylor may be responsible for more food-related illness and death than anyone in history. Yet he has recently been appointed by Obama to be the U.S. food safety czar.




The person who may be responsible for more food-related illness and death than anyone in history has just been made the US food safety czar. This is no joke.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeffre..._b_243810.html
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Yes it is. The current record is held by Trofim Denisovich Lysenko.
Which killed roughly 50 million people with his food production policies.

There isn't anyone alive today that comes even near that number.
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Yes it is. The current record is held by Trofim Denisovich Lysenko.
Which killed roughly 50 million people with his food production policies.

There isn't anyone alive today that comes even near that number.
Does that make our new food czar an angel and off the hook?
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No, just thought to threw up a name that in my opinion is forgotten a bit to much.
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Yes it is. The current record is held by Trofim Denisovich Lysenko.
Which killed roughly 50 million people with his food production policies.

There isn't anyone alive today that comes even near that number.

Oh well then by all means Obama made a very good choice. He could have really screwed up by appointing that Ukrainian dude (oh but I guess he's dead so Obama had to go with only the second best at killing people with food and food policies).
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No, just thought to threw up a name that in my opinion is forgotten a bit to much.
I've never heard of him until you...

What became of these laws that were passed and went into committee..?

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HR 875, a bill currently working its way through Congress. Sponsored by Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn), the Food Safety Modernization Act of 2009 was one of several bills introduced in the wake of the peanut butter-borne salmonella outbreak. Each of these bills ostensibly seeks to improve food safety with increased regulation.

HR 875 won't regulate seed-saving, backyard gardens, or farmers markets. It would, however, split the Food and Drug Administration into separate bodies, one for food and one for drugs. This is a move that Food and Water Watch would support. But unfortunately, she says, it's likely to kill the bill, because splitting the FDA might be too daunting a task for lawmakers to take on right now.


Another bill that's more likely to make it to a vote, Lovera says, is HR 759. While this bill, "the Food And Drug Administration Globalization Act," has drawn relatively little attention, she thinks it would be more likely to cause big problems for small farmers.

HR 759 would extend traceability recordkeeping requirements that currently apply only to food processors to farms and restaurants - and require that recordkeeping be done electronically, placing a disproportionate burden, in terms of time and money, on small farmers.
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And you would have never heard of this monsanto guy if he had been appointed when bush was in office. If we are going to be honest, I have had a real problem with monsanto for a long time. Im guessing you didnt start having a problem with them until they were linked to the current administration.
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And you would have never heard of this monsanto guy if he had been appointed when bush was in office. If we are going to be honest, I have had a real problem with monsanto for a long time. Im guessing you didnt start having a problem with them until they were linked to the current administration.
Not sure if you're trying to bait me or provoke me but...

Under Bush how many high level Monsanto ex's were members of his cabinet...

During the Bush years how many bills like HR759 and HR875 were proposed and voted on or even made it to committee..?

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John Ashcroft, the attorney general, was the top recipient of Monsanto contributions

Donald Rumsfeld, was president of Searle Pharmaceuticals, now owned by Monsanto.

Tommy Thompson, secretary of Health and Human Services, helped the biotech industry by getting the state of Wisconsin to set up a $37 million biotech zone there. He received $50,000 from the biotech industry for his reelection campaign.

Ann Veneman, Secretary of Agriculture was on the board of directors of Calgene Pharmaceuticals, purchased by Monsanto.

During the 2000 election cycle, Monsanto gave a total of only $63,350 to Congress...

Looks like it doesn't matter who's in office...
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Looks like it doesn't matter who's in office...
well, from what I've seen all this stuff about Monsanto has been NEWS ON AO for YEARS but many who are against it NOW seem to ONLY be against it because of the Obama Connection.

when BUSH was pushing this crap the list of folk who were objecting to Monsanto related issues was smaller and few of those names have yet to chime in on this new round of stuff -- which tells me this is more related to Obama than Monsanto ...

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Not sure if you're trying to bait me or provoke me but...

Under Bush how many high level Monsanto ex's were members of his cabinet...

During the Bush years how many bills like HR759 and HR875 were proposed and voted on or even made it to committee..?
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well, from what I've seen all this stuff about Monsanto has been NEWS ON AO for YEARS but many who are against it NOW seem to ONLY be against it because of the Obama Connection.

when BUSH was pushing this crap the list of folk who were objecting to Monsanto related issues was smaller and few of those names have yet to chime in on this new round of stuff -- which tells me this is more related to Obama than Monsanto ...

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well, from what I've seen all this stuff about Monsanto has been NEWS ON AO for YEARS but many who are against it NOW seem to ONLY be against it because of the Obama Connection.

when BUSH was pushing this crap the list of folk who were objecting to Monsanto related issues was smaller and few of those names have yet to chime in on this new round of stuff -- which tells me this is more related to Obama than Monsanto ...

just sayin'

Under Bush how many high level Monsanto ex's were members of his cabinet...

During the Bush years how many bills like HR759 and HR875 were proposed and voted on or even made it to committee..?


Being a lawyer or on a company that Monsanto bought later isn't the same that having someone assigned to a czar
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Under Bush how many high level Monsanto ex's were members of his cabinet...

During the Bush years how many bills like HR759 and HR875 were proposed and voted on or even made it to committee..?


Being a lawyer or on a company that Monsanto bought later isn't the same that having someone assigned to a czar
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well, from what I've seen all this stuff about Monsanto has been NEWS ON AO for YEARS but many who are against it NOW seem to ONLY be against it because of the Obama Connection.

when BUSH was pushing this crap the list of folk who were objecting to Monsanto related issues was smaller and few of those names have yet to chime in on this new round of stuff -- which tells me this is more related to Obama than Monsanto ...

just sayin'
Antilib, just admit that monsanto wasnt even on your radar until a right winger made a dotted line for you connecting them to Obama...
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Let's just look at some old stuff on AO and WHO posted on these threads ...

http://forums.armageddononline.org/m...light=Monsanto

http://forums.armageddononline.org/m...light=Monsanto

http://forums.armageddononline.org/m...light=Monsanto

http://forums.armageddononline.org/s...light=Monsanto

http://forums.armageddononline.org/b...light=Monsanto

I looked for you, antilib, but it seems you are nowhere to be found on this issue until it became connected to Obama's Administration In The Media - it had been connected to Obama's Admin from the get go but until some news organ publicized it ...

so, are you against Monsanto or just Obama's Administration? the Record shows a simple answer ...
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