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Old Oct 16th, 2004, 11:20 PM   #1
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Michael E. Salla, PhD (E.T. Researcher)

I researched this Dr. for quite a while. Whether you agree with his beliefs or not, his credentials are legit. There's no other way to get his info across other than. Michael E. Salla, PhD/E.T. Researcher My take on the whole thing is "I hope the man is wrong and not even close!". If we take a minute to think about it, for the first time in history we have the technological ability i.e, travel, communication,and medicine to actually make this world a Utopia. We aren't though. We're going to turn in into a wasteland unless....
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Old Oct 17th, 2004, 12:05 PM   #2
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Hurray for human ignorance...

Push One World Government, least we'd have some unity and balance
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Old Oct 18th, 2004, 11:57 AM   #3
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Seems rather far fetched to me. If the Nazis had UFO technology, they should not have lost so easily.
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Old Oct 18th, 2004, 3:50 PM   #4
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nazi tech

The Nazis were developing the works of Townsend Brown very feverishly during WWII, and they produced 2 prototypes; 1 is known as the foo fighter. It was a small unmanned device that used an electrogravitic drive and infrared to home in on our bombers. Once the electromagnetic sensors on board indicated the device was in range, it emitted EMP to interfere with the bombers magnetos, thereby forcing the plane down. It did a great job of homing in on our planes, and was sighted by our pilots on many occasions; unfortunately for the nazis, they never got the EMP strong enough to knock out more than 2 documented allied bombers. Our bombing was starting to have a real effect, and thats as far as they got.
Device 2 was the mithe disc; a larger, manned, electrogravitic drive with a jet turbine to provide directional thrust. It had quite a bit of promise, but the prototypes were all destroyed by allied bombing. It did fly though.
Both of these machines were a logical development of the works of Brown, and used the "Biefield Brown effect" for propulsion. Nothing ET about it. All the techs and developers of these projects were imported into America after the war, and hid from the Nurnburg trials. America has had this tech since then and is doing everything it can to deflect people away from the truth.
You should try to understand that a scared populace is a docile populace. Our plan since the war has always been to keep people worried by;
1 the soviet/communist expansion scenario
2 the rogue nation/terrorist scenario
3 the killer asteroid scenario (which actually has some merit)
4 the alien invasion scenario

Dont get caught up in this crap, you are being groomed to accept it as truth and it is not. It is a plan developed in the late 40s by thought engineers to keep the populace docile and supportive of the government because we think we need them to protect us from these imaginary progressive threats. UFOs are unidentified to the beholder, but those on the inside know just what is going on, perhaps in future years genetics will enable us to make a grey, and have him speak gibberish, which of course only the government scientist can translate Hewill undoubtably be captured right next to his flying disc as we already have the tech. The populace will believe the real (created) alien on TV; and lap it up like puppies...dont buy into this stuff; while it would be very egocentric to assume we are the only intelligent life in the universe, there are no little grays in flying saucers with their butt probes scheming on our asses. Its all made up...you are being prepared to be scared as our motto goes...dont buy it.
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Old Oct 19th, 2004, 10:31 AM   #5
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It was a small unmanned device that used an electrogravitic drive and infrared to home in on our bombers. Once the electromagnetic sensors on board indicated the device was in range, it emitted EMP to interfere with the bombers magnetos, thereby forcing the plane down. It did a great job of homing in on our planes, and was sighted by our pilots on many occasions; unfortunately for the nazis, they never got the EMP strong enough to knock out more than 2 documented allied bombers.
I thought that EMP and the other said technology were not discovered until 1945 or later?
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Old Oct 19th, 2004, 10:59 AM   #6
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The Germans had the best scientists in the world, under the nazis they poured lots of money into research; given another year they would have had the atom bomb too...all this stuff was very secret, there was a war on. After the war the USA saw no reason to let alot of it out, and invented the main gist of UFOs thru Arnold, a "Seattle businessman". Try and look up HIS resume....Then there was Hill, under the employ of the Pentagon, who first made up the "butt probe" legend while under hypnosis. People in the know have laughed about this for years...It seems the populace is willing to believe about anything, but dont bother buying a chastity belt as your butt is safe from nonexistant aliens.
I know for a fact that the "recovered crashed saucer and bodies" that we supposedly have is BS. At the time we were putting up newly developed stratospheric weather baloons to monitor radiation from the USSR bomb tests; as we knew they were working feverishly on it. We considered it imperitive to know when they detonated one, hence this top secret program. One came down and was lost, when it was found it was recovered ASAP. It WAS a secret, but it wasnt aliens. My grandfather, father and myself have over the years talked with many people in the know about this. It was a plot to keep the REAL secret and breed fear in our populace,....and it continues to this day, and will only get more solid in public opinion as time goes on. Dont buy it.
TT Brown was fooling around with EMP and electrogravitics as early as 1927, so it was known...but note that the Germans never got it strong enough to work as intended (EMP). If aliens were really backing the Germans it seems to reason that they would have supported them at a minimum to ensure their victory, then they would be on good terms with the leaders of the population of the world; why would they let them lose??? No aliens with buttprobes....but flying discs is a whole other subject....
Oh yeah, it just hit me...Hitler isnt really dead, hes being drilled nightly by a little alien with a BIG buttprobe....hehehehehe...
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Old Oct 20th, 2004, 11:54 AM   #7
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>Dont get caught up in this crap, you are being groomed to accept it as truth
>and it is not.

i think i see where you're coming from, but i disagree. and i'll try to explain why.

your angle may be right on, but in order to convince people that a war is needed to defend them, the symptoms had to exist, amplified, and distorted, in order garner support and acceptance for higher taxation.

Reefer addicts had to exist, for Nixon's "War on Drugs",
Communism had to exist in order to wage a "Cold War",
Terrorism had to exist in order to have a "War on Terrorism",
Meteors have to impact Earth to justify space defence against a killer asteroid, so...

what of an Alien menace? I can understand the CIA perpetuating a myth in order to keep the population compliant. But wouldn't that be an amplification or distortion of a pre-existing concept? Or is it all "made-up"?

Even though we have a large budget for the War on Drugs, we still have a drug problem. Does that mean we've been losing that war? or supporting its longevity? research the CIA, DEA, and Mena Arkansas connection. Or the Halliburton/Brown&Root drug route as described in "Crossing the Rubicon" by Michael Ruppert.

So what you're saying would hold true, that we are being groomed to accept an alien threat. mainly because they exist, but can be shown to be malevolent and hostile. but i think that may be due to mindset. Unless you know for fact, that Steven Greer, is an agent provocateur, intent on misinforming the public about UFOs and ETs after talking with many many witnesses and publishing them in his book, "Disclosure", then i'm disinclined to believe that we are being fed false eyewitness accounts.

However. I can see that the witnesses claiming to have seen UFOs/ETs, may not have been "in the loop", and therefore excluded from truth, and only testifying to what they witnessed, as planned/allowed, by the perpetrators of the myth. Its just that, there are so many of them, that its hard to disqualify all of them.
[hmmm, but thats a Delphi technique, whereby you get a bunch of people to state a lie, and everyone will believe it, even though the facts may show otherwise...]

I believe that there is an active policy of non-disclosure and campaigns to discredit whistleblowers.

It may be true that we can now create/fabricate the UFOs that people are witnessing, But, IMO, they are replicas of actual UFOs, as witnessed, decades before we could replicate them.

Take the 1954 (?) sightings in DC. Before we could even build saucers that go 3000 MPH, dozens of them buzzed the White House. The "Foo Fighters" of WWI and WWII, all sides thought the others were using them. Why would the Germans use their EMP foo fighters on their own?


>Its all made up...
>you are being prepared to be scared as our motto goes...
>dont buy it.

well, i've bought it then.
But could it be, that its whats being told to you, so that you feel in control of our destiny?
And that all these other "sightings" are another compartmentalized operation?
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Old Oct 21st, 2004, 8:27 PM   #8
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Ed...

Oh, we need to talk about this stuff....except Im tired right now..OK, hmmmm..lots of things I want to say. Maybe a demonstration is in order.... Grants Pass Oregon and Medford Oregon are both close by. Pick one. You know todays date, but I have to have some time to prepare...You want the populace to see discs?? Or triangles??? I will post the local press reports ....WE WILL discuss this some more...but pick a town and a shape for the "alien spaceship" and I will let the press of that town demonstrate alot of my point...
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004, 11:10 AM   #9
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howbout Medford? howbout we get some circular UFOs have a dogfight with triangular UFOs? while being observed by some "cigar" shaped UFOs?

it will push the agenda forward for an alien threat when it can be shown that they possess the means to destroy us, as well as each other.

its an absurd challenge, but i'd be convinced to your argument, if it were to occur, and witnessed. its also good for a laugh as we get people's reactions.

what say you?
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004, 3:11 PM   #10
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Thats too much ED...

I do have some really cool prototypes of my own, one in disk and one in triangle, but having played with this tech yourself you know how difficult it is getting it all functioning correctly. I COULD however scare the crap out of the citizens of Medford, Oregon for our own amusement, its just too much for me to manage more than one RC craft. What shape do you want me to tune up and get ready?? Its pretty much a done deal that it will be all over the press....especially the way they glow at nite...
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004, 3:28 PM   #11
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darnit, thought it would be cool to see people's reactions. letsgo with the triangle, i think the circular ones have been done to death. how big of a blue glow are you planning?
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004, 6:40 PM   #12
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This I gotta see! You're going to be using magtronic tech on your RCs Niteflyer?
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