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Old May 10th, 2008, 4:25 PM   #1
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I named it for you and I believe it's a very apt title for the thread as per your request.
Sorry that you had a bad day.. but I believe it's actually your turn.
not too sure why you cannot start a new thread tho..
take your time I have been here for years LOL
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Old May 10th, 2008, 10:26 PM   #2
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What a wonderful present!!!!

WoW, My own thread.... and it's got my name on it and everything!

Cherisa... *BIG HUG*... Thankyou so much!

You put it in the right section too.... you are in rhythm aren't ya?.

I've been on this site 5/6 days, and now I got a thread named after me.... you guys really know how to roll out the Red carpet don't ya? This is SOOO much better than a T-shirt! ..... I'm stunned!

For the next few weeks, I'm gonna treat this as my home from home. There's some stuff to move in first, so I'll reserve a few slots, but if you happen to pop by just post hello, maybe, if I got time, we'll have a coffee.

and C.... yeah it's still my turn!
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I found this the other day, and loved it. I dunno what this does to water, but I know what it does to me. It's a great message, and the vid gets funnier the more you watch it.

DONT FEED THE LIONS!

All I ask is, every now and then, give it a click, and wipe your feet.

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House etiquette

I know you guys have been here for quite a few years now, and will have evolved certain etiquettes, mannerisms, and behaviors within this site. From what I've seen, you've got quite a strong, vibrant community going, which is quite rare for Internet and should be cherished. I've read way more threads that what I've posted to, and I'm starting to see the personalities. I'm the new guy here, so please bear this in mind if I should make any Faux Pas or break any taboo. I'm hoping that Cherisa or the local moddy, can give me a nudge in the right direction.

Similarly, I've got a strong personality. I tend to be off the wall, very often outside the box, and sometimes out to lunch. I also tend to display a very broad spectrum of emotions of which I have no fear of using. It's not coz I'm a looney, but because I believe it's healthy, and also very Human. This means I can sometimes be incredibly blunt, base, shocking, cruel, understanding, compassionate, and also very beautiful. That's me, and it's healthy. I also have a VERY irreverent sense of humour, and I love a good laugh. All of these things can be very easily mis-construed via text, and a 24 hour Q/A cycle. If in doubt assume I'm only joking/ poking, and clarify by post or pm. I'm actually a very controlled and balanced person.

I don't promote any particularly platform, religious, political or philosophical. As you get to know me, and I move more furniture in, you'll begin to understand why. I'm VERY open minded, and very interested in hearing your point of view, share it, that's what this thread is for. However, one of my personal red rags, are those who seek to hi-jack fundamentals, and claim them for there own. That, Imo, is mono, and is seeking to claim some kind of Higher Morale Ground, which is the first step along the process to demonisation of perceived opposition, and we all know where that leads. NOT in my house. You have been warned.... Dont feed the lions!

Due to my next post, "a little bit about me", you'll realise why I need this as a "home", and it will be a place of laughter, discussion and comfort, for anyone who seeks it. It's what I need right now. I may be up for some dark days, so on those I'll try not to post, but I do need company here, please understand that.

I'd like to, if possible, keep a conversation type approach in here, and I'm just as interested in hearing your words, rather than mine. It's easier to keep a natural flow, and so better understand each other, if we can keep the quotes down. It simply fills up the thread, with the same old words, and makes it difficult for new guests to follow, and I don't have the power to edit. I'm not saying don't quote, just try to keep them relevant and short, thanks.


And finally you are very welcome, pull up a chair, my name is "Rob", it's great to meet you.

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A little bit about me

This space has had the title for a few days, showing intention, but I've held off writing this, as I'm new to the site, and not yet fully aware of it's dynamics, mechanisms and, most importantly personalties. I can see there are some very wise people, and also some very good people, and sometimes I've met them. I'm starting to make some friends here, and so beginning to trust. Appreciate, that at the moment, that trust is still delicate, but will strengthen if nurtured, and allowed to flourish. The people who have encountered me, show friendship, concern and curiosity. Afterall, it's not everyday that somebody takes up residence in the philosophy section.

"Your Majesty!"... *bows*.... "Thank you for this land. I hope I don't have to pay rent."

I'll begin, by telling you, something about my current situation, and the personalties, that inhabit it.

I'm currently in a very exclusive, private hospital, lying in a bed, with a broken leg. The hospital is one of those ones, that are so exclusive, most people don't realise it's a hospital. From my window, I can see, a 9 hole golf course, and a tennis court, and can hear the pump of a swimming pool. Though obviously, I haven't tried them yet. The grounds are peaceful, green, and a blackbird sings from the roof, every morning. It's a very beautiful place, and the health insurance, is of course extortionate.

There are no wards, in this hospital, only rooms, and I'm told that there are 16. Unless they are in the grounds, the patients never meet, and of course nobody tells. Every day, I get a choice of 3 very good quality main meals, ordered at breakfast, and if I'm not taking medication, I can even have a glass of wine. I have headphones, with 16 channels of music, a television, a toothbrush and a comb. There are many people in the world who have far less than me.

The operating theatre, there's only one, is one of the best equipped I've ever seen, you would not believe some of the toys they have down there. My consultant is very good, not because of the letters after his name, but because he can offer 6 options, when others could only provide 3. The staff here are friendly, intelligent, very good at what they do, and relaxed. Probably because there's only 16 people per hospital rather than per ward. "All this for a broken leg? Wtf, shut up ya winger."

There are currently 5 people in my life, "David" my consultant, plays golf 4 days of the week, and takes time off to work. "Jeremy" the house doc, still believes that doctors know more about their patients injuries, than the patients themselves. Famous for such great statements as "It shouldn't be hurting there." I tell him "I think I am more qualified." We don't get on.... Somewhat incredibly, he is the husband of "Sally", my nurse. Lively, intelligent, 28yo, slim, long dark hair, a body that is hard to ignore, and a laugh that light's up the room. We have long conversations, there is definitely a connection there, and yes, I have had sinful thoughts...... very regularly! Then there is "Gracy", the auxiliary, a stoic woman, someone who has worked far too hard, for not enough recompense, for most of her life. She does my shopping, and is my life-line to nicotine, which Jeremy resents. I tell him "I'm paying the bill, welcome to private healthcare." We don't get on.... Finally there is "Mark" the maintenance/ IT expert. He's into rugby, Ufo's and conspiracy theories. He's the provider of my life-line to you. Which, yes, youv'e guess it, Jeremy also resents. I have long, laughing conversations with his wife.... it's healthy. Very occasionally, I get visits from "Peter" the medical rep (who does pay the bill), which un-surprisingly Jeremy doesn't resent, and like any good medical rep, he's worried about every signature after the first.

Sounds fun? Wanna try? Here's the rub.....

Due to the violence of the injury, that cold equation of kinetic energy vs conservation of momentum, most of my Tibia, came out through the other side of my leg. My mate actually has a piece, he's going to preserve it in a jar. I tell him "I might need it back". There's not very much solid bone, to fix the pin to, and what is left has hairline fractures in it. The first pin didn't take, and a second one needed to be installed, hence my euphoric postings of the other day. If this one doesn't take, there's one more possible attachment point. After that, I lose my leg. Which, I'm sure you can appreciate, comes as a bit of a shock, and makes Peter worry. David says 70/30, and we're waiting to see.

There is a further complication, due to the depth of the wounds, they have to be dry dressed, and heal from the inside-out. Which means that every 2/3 days, the light cast has to be removed, so that the wounds can be cleaned, and re-dressed. A painful process, which Jeremy enjoys immensely, and, as I'm sure you can imagine, we don't get on. An interesting upshot to all of this, is that my hair has now gone grey, I'm told the colour will come back, but I'm cool with it at the moment, because Sally says she likes older men.

So here I lie, hanging from my 2 clamps, and 6 hooks, thinking about playing tennis and writing to you. Welcome to my very limited world. It's good to meet you. Pull up a chair, and have a grape.

Tell me about yourself.... I have plenty of time.

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This is the reason this thread began, as the discussion between me and Cherisa was taking over Scratbox's thread, it's still on going, and currently "my turn"

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It was this thread that made me join AO..... Scratbox, THAT is a really good question.

Things like super-volcanos, Asteroid strikes, and all the others, have always fascinated me, both from their sheer power and also their ability to humble (and scare) mankind. History leaves enough evidence to show that they have occurred, and our increasingly knowledge and science allows us to see, and even predict, that they will occur again. We even get to watch simulations of these predictions from the comfort of our own living rooms, a luxury that the early pompeiians(?) never had.

These things always have and always will be, they are a function of life (and death). They are truly the things of nightmares, because no one really knows which way the coin will fall once it's spinning, only that it will never be what it once was.

I personally believe that, unless something catastrophic occurs (like losing the atmosphere), there will always be survivors. Mankind is the most adaptable of creatures. Wether these small groups can survive long enough to once again flourish is a different matter. That's highly circumstantial and beyond anyone's ability to predict. To me though, the real tragedy of Armageddon is not the crashing of world markets, the breakdown of social order or even the 98% loss of human life. It's the loss of all the hopes and ideals, the achievements, all the lives and deaths of those people who have come before us, and those who would succeed us. The true price that we pay for Armageddon, is not just the loss of what we have, but what we could have become.

Rather than the mechanics, what I'm finding more interesting these days is people's attitude to Armageddon (in whatever form it may take). It seems these attitudes can be broken down into four basic groups, and forgive me if I'm making generalisations here, I realise there are shades of grey, and crossovers, in the below categories.

1) The vast majority of people, to a greater or lesser extent, know of these threats. Like any sane, rational human, it causes them worry and nightmares, but they switch out (or off) and carry on in their "normal everyday lives". They simply have more important things to worry about.

2) The next group is the ones who absolutely do not want to hear, either because man's apparent powerlessness frightens them or, as for example, in the case of global warming, involves having to compromise a way of life that is really quite comfortable.

3) The third group are those people who are highly sensitive to these issues..... it scares them a lot. Enough so that it causes them to change their way, or perceptions, of life. Very often it is manifest in despondency or despair. These darker emotions then increase that person's own sense of powerlessness and so form the basis of a vicious circle. This worry can ultimately inhibit that person from leading a fulfilled happy life.

4) This next group is, in some ways, an off shoot of the previous one. They worry highly about the "End of the world" but rather than giving in to despondency, they seek an escape route. For some it is religious salvation, for others it is a steel tank buried 15 feet in the ground. I don't think we should judge people for seeking an escape route, but they can sometimes be some of the most dangerous people, as they now (and, for their own sanity, have to) believe that they are immune. Safe amidst their rosy misguidance, they can sit back and judge the rest of us, referring to the destruction of a viable, sentient, species.... as a cleansing.

As stated previously, there are some huge generalisations here, and I'm not basing it on any known scientific study or research. It's only opinion and perception. If any of you know of any research done in this area, I'd be interested in reading it. I also believe that these four basic groups can be found in many issues, not just Armageddon. They do have 2 things in common though.... and this is the point I'd like to make. The first one is that they are all very human reactions, and I'm sure we've all met people who fall into at least one of the above groups. The second point is, when faced with an impending Armageddon, none of these groups will be of any real use.... which is the really frightening thing. Is it THAT, ourselves, which dooms us?

There is a fifth group though, and it's just as Human, and more importantly, just as achievable. There's evidence of it on some of the above posts, and we've also met them in our "normal everyday lives". These are the ones who realise that it will happen, at some point, and so do their damndest to stop it. Whether it's turning potential super-volcanos into abundant sources of geothermal energy, strapping engines to threatening asteroids to bring them into an orbit that we can easily mine them, or even the more mundane things of standing up to illegal presidents, declaring illegal wars on manufactured emotions. These are the true fighters of the human species, because they'll stand against sometimes truly overwhelming odds, for all our sakes, not just theirs. It's the people who stand against these things, that are the ones that change our destiny. Unfortunately, they are only as strong as the support we give them.

We, as a species, have the most wonderful opportunities now, more than what we have ever had, to affect these things for positive change. Yet, so often, it's individualistic motives, weakness of character, or good 'ol fashioned "don't wanna know" that holds back, both us and others, from joining that fifth group.

Ironically, these are the things that all of us have the power to change.
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Excellent post Lightmind!
It's all about perception.
If you can get mass conciousness focusing on ANYTHING positive, we could change this world.
yes, things appear terrible, and in some places they are terrible.
ever read any Masaru Emoto books?
Water responds to negative words and positive words differently.
Masaru Emoto took photographs of different crystals. the water exposed to words like you fool and hate looked like this (IMAGE)
and water exposed to words like love and joy looked like this (IMAGE)
It just stands to reason that we can apply this to all aspects of the world, and change our world?

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Hi Cherisa

Thanks for the compliment..... I'm not sure what I do with these reputation points, but I'm hoping that if I get enough of them I might be able to cash them in for a Tee-shirt or something. So keep them coming as my wardrobe is looking rather thin at the moment.

I've heard of Masaru Emoto, and some of the pictures are certainly vivid. I strongly believe that we are intrinsically (as opposed to physically) linked to our enviroment : "Esho Funi", so it certainly doesn't surprise me that such things are possible. I believe his science has been critised, but he certainly wouldn't be the first to suffer that! After all, musicians aren't required to double-blind their music to justify the emotional effect it can have on us.

I'm not espousing any religion here, but In the context of Armageddon here's some really interesting words:-


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"When I observe carefully the state of the world today, I see ignorant people who give way to doubts because of their naivete. Therefore they look up at the heavens and mouth their resentment, or gaze down at the earth and sink deep into anxiety.

I have pondered the matter carefully with what limited resources I possess, and have searched rather widely in the scriptures for an answer. The people of today all turn their backs upon what is right; they give their allegiance to evil. That is the reason why the benevolent deities have abandoned the nation, why sages leave and do not return, and in their stead come devils and demons, disasters and calamities that arise one after another.

I cannot keep silent on this matter. I cannot suppress my fears."

Before you go on, just for an experiment, re-read and judge.

Do these words Strike a chord? Have relevance to what we see in society today?

There is absolutely no reason why they should. They're the words of a pseudo-fictional buddhist teacher, written over 700 years ago, to the retired Regent, addressing the current apocalyptic problems faced by Japan.

Strange commonality though.... funny 'ol world init?

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I've heard of Masaru Emoto, and some of the pictures are certainly vivid. I strongly believe that we are intrinsically (as opposed to physically) linked to our enviroment : "Esho Funi", so it certainly doesn't surprise me that such things are possible. I believe his science has been critised, but he certainly wouldn't be the first to suffer that! After all, musicians aren't required to double-blind their music to justify the emotional effect it can have on us.

Are any artist's required to double-blind their work? Look, I dislike rap as much as you but, does that mean the world should be without rap? would the world be less evil? or is it part of the plan? yin yang? are we racing toward meaninglessness ant the same time we are becoming aware of this stuff?

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I reread and judged, I believe that his perspective was a bit off..
Sounds like fear based thinking to me. Fear is what has gotten us to the point of meaninglessness that is blatant in the world today, fear of being without, fear of dying, fear of being alone. Fear of clamaity If you replace fear with love and decide to serve, the world can change for you.
And maybe when we stop being afraid, the world will change for everyone.

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of course it strike's a chord with me.

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It is! init?

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Hmmm.....not sure if you're rebuking me here? It's difficult to tell via text. I certainly didn't mean to sound like I was be-littling your post. In fact the body of my post was to draw a parrallel with yours, and keep on topic;-

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....The people of today all turn their backs upon what is right; they give their allegiance to evil. That is the reason why the benevolent deities have abandoned the nation, why sages leave and do not return, and in their stead come devils and demons, disasters and calamities that arise one after another.
Agreeing with you, that heart and mind, can affect enviroment.

As regards fear....If I expand the story, you'll see there's very good reason for fear.

2000 years prior to this time, it is written that in the Latter Day of the Law, when the people (leaders) have turned away from the true teachings, and given into the 3 poisons of Greed, Anger, and foolishness. The time of decline will be marked by the 3 major Calamities of Fire (volcano/ Forest fires), Air (Typhoons/ Storms) and Water (Earthquake/ Floods). This will be followed by the time of Decrease which will suffer the 3 minor calamities of High grain prices (famine), War and Pestilence. Decline and Decrease are interchangeable to mean society and/or population.

The indications that these times are approaching are marked by seven disasters;- Plague, Foreign Invasion/ Aggression, Internal Strife, Changes in the heavens (Comets/Meteors), Solar/ Lunar/ Stellar irregularities, Unseasonal Weather (storms), and Unseasonal Climate (droughts).

Sounding familliar? None of this comes from the bible. These start with Shakamuni, through Tien-Tai, Mia-lo and others, and form the rationale for Nichiren Daishonin's Rissho Ankoku Ron. The reason I para-phrase, rather than post a link, is it runs to about 45 pages and because it's one religious school arguing against another school of the same basic teaching, it's full of cross-references and footnotes to other sutras and works. Unless you understand these cross-referenced meanings, to read it is slow, painful and posting it, makes me look like some sort of religious nutter.

The important bit is;-

All of these things had, were or threatened Japan at this time, c.1260 AD, including the very real threat of invasion by Kublai Khan, the incumbant Superpower. By their frame of reference, they were facing their Apocalyse. I can't blame them for being afraid, but yes, it doesn't help. In fact, it was the fear of prophecy of Apocalypse, that caused Moctezuma to hesitate, at a time when he could have martialled 50000+ warriors against the 600 of Hernan Cortes. An indecision that caused his own Armageddon.

Fact is.... this is not the first time we've faced Apocalyse, and it won't be the last, but it will involve change. We either choose to change, or the choice will be made for us.

Which carries the least pain?

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That is facinating..I'll wiki it..
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NP mate :)

I only drew the music thing, as ME was being judged by his scientific peers for his methods, when he's actually only pointing out a function, and openly admits he's selective in his examples. Lost in all this nit-picking, the truly astounding thing, is that emotions/ words apparently have the ability to affect inanimate objects..... Thank you for pointing this out.

BTW Some art should remain double-blinded! :)
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But it's really more than that, if we can change inanimate objects by thoughts/words, can we change the scenario from destruction to something else? or in fact can we help create Armageddon by continually dwelling on the negative? I am speaking on a quantum level, and I am only just a student in this myself, barely, barely know anything about it. (expects CT to jump in and eat me for lunch)
I just see things differently, I have been told I have my head in the sand, or up my bum, I am crazy, stupid and a myriad of other slurs, but..
something happened to me, I woke up and was 1 in love with humanity in every way, and 2 the whole world changed for me. I saw things come to life, I saw a purpose and design in everything. It was definitely metaphysical, and I am sure if I told an MD they would lock me up. AND(!) it's not that I don't see the horrors of the world anymore, I just try not to let them effect me on a physiological level, or a spiritual level. I can let myself get into black, but what kind and purpose would that serve?
I can only use my experience to say that there is a different way to see things..
Of course..... What's more it works both ways.

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If the minds of the people are impure, their land is also impure, but if their minds are pure, so is their land. There are not two lands, pure or impure. The difference lies solely in the good or evil of our minds.
The really incredible thing is, once you DEEPLY REALISE this "instrinsic function" in life. Suddenly the fear of Armageddon no longer has power over you, it no longer controls. Because now, you understand that you control it. Imagine the weight of that fear being lifted from your heart, and the liberation that this brings;-

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something happened to me, I woke up and was 1 in love with humanity in every way, and 2 the whole world changed for me. I saw things come to life, I saw a purpose and design in everything. It was definitely metaphysical.
It's a wonderful feeling init?

What's more we've all got it, everyone of us, just like anger, greed and jealousy. No one would disagree with me on those three, why do we have so much trouble believing in your one? Just like the others, it's only an emotional state of mind and heart. We might call it love, simply because we know of no other word for it, but actually it's a higher perception, a lifting of the veils. The buddhists call it enlightenment, but they don't have sole ownership. Christians, Jews, Muslims they all have the ability to manifest it too. It's a commonality, it's there, in every Human being.

Even George Bush....... Though I don't think he does it very often.

What's more, if we all manifested this "higher state" a little more often, would that upset God? Does that offend His purpose? Though I know some of His ministers DO have a few things to say on the matter.

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I have been told I have my head in the sand, or up my bum, I am crazy, stupid and a myriad of other slurs......and I am sure if I told an MD they would lock me up.
Wanna hear a truly frightening thing?

Imagine the power of a Human being whose heart and mind is as beautiful as your snowflake..... Ghandi perhaps?..... How about 3 Billion of them?

Oh look, there goes another veil.

I personally believe that's a lot closer to God's design. Who or whatever you may perceive him to be. The word Apocalypse, actually means a revelation, an opening of the eyes, nothing more. Armageddon (Har-Magedon), is actually a geographical location, Tel-Megiddo. You can go there, take pictures, buy an ice-cream.

See how these terrible words, start to lose their hold?

Cherisa then wrote:

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Of course..... What's more it works both ways.

The really incredible thing is, once you DEEPLY REALISE this "instrinsic function" in life. Suddenly the fear of Armageddon no longer has power over you, it no longer controls. Because now, you understand that you control it. Imagine the weight of that fear being lifted from your heart, and the liberation that this brings.
that is kind of what happened. I was afraid of very little. I want to talk to homeless people. I don't want to pretend as if they aren't there. and I want to share it too. I want people to have what it is that I have..It's really hard to give something intangible away, but I can give my time, my love, material gifts. I can help those who cannot see maybe..I hope I am making sense here.. The best way I can put it it is God.

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It's a wonderful feeling init?
It is indescribable! I cannot say that 100% of the time that I am completely filled with joy... but I can say that it's about 50/50 which compared to a few years ago it's progress... but you know what else?
I can call on it any time I choose.
Any time I want to be free and without fear I rest in God and voila'...I am without care.

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What's more we've all got it, everyone of us, just like anger, greed and jealousy. No one would disagree with me on those three, why do we have so much trouble believing in your one? Just like the others, it's only an emotional state of mind and heart. We might call it love, simply because we know of no other word for it, but actually it's a higher perception, a lifting of the veils. The buddhists call it enlightenment, but they don't have sole ownership. Christians, Jews, Muslims they all have the ability to manifest it too. It's a commonality, it's there, in every Human being.
I am not sure what happened but I will say this..I saw things I had never seen before and the joy I get from a snowflake a drop of rain or the feelings of trees..
it's rapture...that is the best way to describe it with human words..angels have it, this I know.

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Even George Bush....... Though I don't think he does it very often.
it's just hidden on him.

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What's more, if we all manifested this "higher state" a little more often, would that upset God? Does that offend His purpose? Though I know some of His ministers DO have a few things to say on the matter.
I think it is God..How could God get upset with something he created?

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Wanna hear a truly frightening thing?
Imagine the power of a Human being whose heart and mind is as beautiful as your snowflake..... Ghandi perhaps?.....
How about 3 Billion of them?
we are as beautiful as that snowflake...right now we are.

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I personally believe that's a lot closer to God's design. Who or whatever you may perceive him to be. The word Apocalypse, actually means a revelation, an opening of the eyes, nothing more. Armageddon (Har-Magedon), is actually a geographical location, Tel-Megiddo. You can go there, take pictures, buy an ice-cream.
If something catasrophic does happen, we will get to work join together and help like we always do.
People always talk about what was not done in any disaster, when in reality people come together and help in the best way they know how.

I want other people to get it.. If it helps one person then I have served my brother well.

My turn....

So where do we go from here? If it's an intrinsic emotion, that can be not just felt, but manifested, consciously, no matter how briefly, surely it can be manifested again. If you feel it, and call it God, and I feel it, and call it Enlightened. Does that mean we oppose each other? If a third party feels it, and calls it Music, are theirs any less?

If we are intrinsically linked to our enviroment, and of course other people within it, if we show anger, do we find that anger is returned, whether actively or passively? If we are greedy and selfish,, do we not find this causes the same in others? What's more, if we show these negative things enough, do we find our enviroment manifesting this same lifestate? Conversely, if the people around us are frightened, or vindictive, do we not find ourselves becomming the same?

Why then should we believe that beauty, wisdom, compassion, courage, unity, and love, would not carry the same effect to others?
I once saw the most incredible thing;-

It was on a boat, at night, in equatorial Pacific waters. There was no Moon, no running lights, and no land mass in sight. The only light came from the stars. The Milky Way was fully visible, and the sheer numbers of stars were unbelievable. The waters were calm, and only the quiet sound of the boats engines could be heard. Nothing but blackness and stars. If you stood at the bow, it felt like you could simply slide off the edge of the world into space. Whilst I stood there enthralled, I noticed a faint shimmer ahead, in the water, a greenish mist. So faint at first, I thought it was my eyes playing tricks on me. But as it approached, it grew stronger and more defined, a pale and shimmering green, with an occasional brilliant flash. I called to the others and we watched as our boat drew closer.

At that time of year, there is an algae bloom, that phosphereses when energy or movement is applied. Sometimes it washes up on the beach, and walking through it will leave green glowing footprints behind. It was this same colour green that we could now see, but what was causing the phospherescence, and the bright flashes? The path of our boat took us almost over the top of it, and as it passed by we clearly saw, in every green detail.

It was a school of fish, sardine size, swimming round and round, turning suddenly the school would cause a brilliant wave of green, yet when swimming slow and straight would give only a dull light. And then a brilliant flash, far brighter and faster would shoot through the school. As this incredible sight passed by, we saw, fully illuminated in brilliant green, the darting shape of a dolphin feeding. A pod, herding the school into the light of the algae, and hunting as a cohesive pack. Something they have done for thousands of years.

A boat load of burly, macho, half-drunk men, stunned into silenced awe, by the sheer beauty and precision of this wonderous sight.

If we seek to create beauty, wisdom, courage and compassion, in our world, surely this will be mirrored back to ourselves and others? If we encourage, inspire, teach and empower others, surely they will develop the strength to do the same? In doing so, does our world not become a better place?

Commerce with morals, Science with wisdom, Politics with integrity, and Law with Humanity. All of these things, are very easily within our grasp. However, we will only achieve them when WE, as a species and as individuals, will both accept AND provide nothing less.

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Phew!..... This isn't editing, it's more like hacking away with a rock!

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I am glad I could help.
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Home again, I've just realised that I'm missing a very important thing, that I never considered that I might need. A doorbell! I could be sitting here, musing to myself, never realising that someone had called round.......

*** BING! ***

I know! I'll rename the refresh button, and call it "Front Door".

It's not quite as good...... but at least this way, I might catch them going up the path.

I'm in a funny mood at the moment, and have the giggles. Experiencing all the comforts and pleasures that a Strong Opiate brings. I found this in the video shop, and thought I'd share these feellings with you. But like always I cant find the remote control.



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Sorry UV... phased out there. Thought I saw the pope at the door.

I was gonna leave the gory details, for the introduction, but I think the state I'm in at the mo, you end up to talking to somebody else.

There's not many vids at the mo, one van got lost. So I'm gonna start a new collection, when I get me head together. I'll put all in one place, coz we all look through other ppls vid and music shelves, and furniture is good. But I thought I'd have a look.

You know how we always go looking for something different, and always end up in the same place? I just repeated my fatal mistake;- went down the vid shop, just browsing, looking for jokes and music. I always seem to find myself in same section. I love it, but it's deepness dwells....

It's not often I get to use drugs, and they do, only give, temporary shelter. So with fading smiles, I'm gonna enjoy the mellow, before the pain starts up.

See you soon mate

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Hey there Lightmind. I've been reading some of your stuff here and I gotta say some of its pretty interesting. Anyway just thought I'd stop by and say hi.
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You are rather disconnected Lightmind. Or at least you seem to be.
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Hi Ant... Thanks! It's not quite moved in yet, but it will be soon. I like it, it's positive. I love your sig btw, especially the first one. There is SOOO many truths, in those few words. When we live it, we learn.

Hi DBA.... Disconnected?... By the time you posted mate, I was totally unplugged.

Welcome guys, thanks for poppin round. What do you think of the "mellow" vid?

I'm awake again now, and creeping back to life. I just re-read my prior posts, and I'm surprised how FEW spelling mistakes there are. More importantly, they all seem to make reasonable sense. I may go and edit some, just to make em more in tune with the current reality. I was raging at the time. I'm glad I didn't go on some giggling thread rampage, that could have been embarrassing....and I KNEW I'd seen the pope, though I thought it was me that was spaced! Hope the doormat didn't frighten him off!

Talking of giggling, I found this one a couple off days ago, and I'm not sure which is funniest.
They say humour doesn't travel, but laughter is universal. The interesting one is, who laughs more to it? Men or Women?
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Ding dong!
sometimes drugs are a need, like after surgery or when you have a migraine.

I saw that the pope came by too.
Please don't mess up the house boys. Especially you DBA..I know how dirty you like to be.

Loved the mellow vid.. too cool. definitely one of the best songs eva
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Hi Lightline - sorry for my delayed response to this thread. I only just now saw and read it. I like your screenname. Disconnected is fine. I tend to live in my own world as well. One with UFOs and aliens and where animals are treated with respect and kindness and where there is no religion and......oh well. Nice fantasy (the last two items) while it lasted.

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Cheri....Hello mate, how are ya.

The mellow.

Like I say, I found myself in the same section again. I knew I needed to hear it, but I had a choice, the clip from "The Wall"? ...TBH, thats ugly, it's designed to be. It's not bad, just not what I needed then. And then I found that one..... and that's beautiful! Considering the subject, how would you rather go out?

When it comes to live shows;- there are bands, and then there's Pink Floyd. No contest. The other thing with that vid is, they're all really good musicians, but they're not jumpin around, posin, silly hair-cuts, going "ME, ME, I, I"..... Watch em, they are simply heralds of the music. They need only whisper, because it's a higher message, higher even than them.

Ever since I first heard 'em, in my school days, I've always loved em. Roger Walters, is one of those rare people, who can talk in dualities. It makes us think, and challenges our conceptions. These are the things, that open our minds. But, those messages are VERY strong, and they're not light. They're good, just not light. You have to be very careful, when you look on these things. YOU! have to be as strong as the message. Otherwise, it will take you, just like the herald himself. Here's a strong message.

This is what war does.

Good stuff, init?

On a lighter note....

Legs feeling good, it's sore, and still bruised from the op. But it's actually feeling better than what it was the first time round.... and that's hopeful.

Cheri... Thanks!...But don't worry bout DBA, I'm sure he's house trained, and in here, there's no reason to contest.

Ain't that right.?

Oops.... there goes the doorbell...

"Naah sorry. Lightline don't live ere. You must be Jena, come on in. Hi, I'm "Rob", and don't worry about worlds mate, at the mo, this is my little one....and you are very welcome."

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