Israel may be preparing to attack Iranian nuclear facilities

[humanhybrid]

Israel may be preparing to attack Iranian nuclear facilities within the year, according to US administration assessments reported on Army Radio Saturday morning. See Also: WILL IRAN BE NEXT? http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1078027574121

[lotrfan55345]

How does this relate to Armageddon?

[midnightsonblaze]

See Ferdinand & Kadyrov.....

[equalizer]

Originally Posted by humanhybrid

Israel may be preparing to attack Iranian nuclear facilities within the year, according to US administration assessments reported on Army Radio Saturday morning. See Also: WILL IRAN BE NEXT? http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...=1078027574121

I am sensing a pattern here. The saber rattling is getting old.

[medicvet]

Personally, I don't matter it getting 'old', and am dreading the time when it does happen. I think this is one of those 'when not if' things, and am honestly surprised that the air attack hasn't taken place yet. I am very concerned that this will trigger a world war the same way the assasination of ferdinand caused countries to go to war against one another strictly because of ally attachments, and I think that is how we are going to get sucked into the next world war.

That and the fact that too many world leaders are like some people who post on this site..they are actually looking forward to WWIII without thinking about the consequences..because of course in their minds they will survive it..

[iulian28ti]

the US Gov must be insane to support Israel in an eventual Iran offensive. The US Intel says Iran stopped researching WMDs, Putin said the UN is allowed to monitor the nuclear fuel shipments, so.... If an attack occurs, they will have the opportunity to put Iran under their blanket and say "You mess with Iran, you mess with motherland. May god be with you, we have FOABs and lots of allies now."

I expect the US Gov to be a little more intelligent and give up to all the aggressive-subversive conquest of Europe and the Middle East.

[Nu Kua]

http://tinyurl.com/2qslww

An interesting viewpoint.

...Awaiting Israel's revelations, its neoconservative and evangelical allies have expressed their doubts about the honesty and intentions of the report's authors and accused them of politicising the intelligence to fit their political agenda.

Some referred to them as state department moles in the intelligence community.

It is not the absence of a "smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud" that's upsetting those "bomb first, verify later" ideologues. Rather it's how the new findings pulled the rugs from under their war plans.

You can be sure Israel and its US lobbyists will continue to fight nail and tooth as they are pulled away from the brink and in line with America's strategy in the Middle East...

...It's no secret Israel has an agenda and lobbies Washington to adopt it as its own. Nor is it news that Israel's intelligence sharing with its US ally is, at best, selective and driven by its own, not US, national interests.

Hyping the intelligence about an Iraq nuclear threat prior to the invasion is only a recent example of Israel's disinformation. Iran is another. Syria is a third and so on and so forth.

Israel collects and analyses intelligence through the prisms of a neighbouring garrison state, the US benefits from the great and diverse resources of its empire...

[steven]

Originally Posted by iulian28ti

have the opportunity to put Iran under their blanket and say "You mess with Iran, you mess with motherland. May god be with you, we have FOABs and lots of allies now."

My thoughts exactly Jules ! Russia and Iran are beginning to have.... too good of a relationship

[lionheart62]

Originally Posted by lotrfan55345

How does this relate to Armageddon?

dude if they get a lil tooo close with russia .. they gunna drop a nuclea bomb on our soil too!

[ryangti]

Nadder it wont happen get a life!
Thats what many think seen what state Pakistan is in at the moment?
From a realistic point of view can or will this ever happen in our lifetimes?

Even though we are on the subject of Israel we have seen how capable they are and will go to any ends in which they see fit.
Then as the gaza subject wash their hands in what they started, they seem to have no qualms on whatever bloodshed or misery they create.

America and Israel should meet up as they now seem joined at the hips,Israel starts
America picks up the pieces.

This story just in anyway whether anything happens is another matter,i will say this is off the subject okay guys!

ABC News has learned that the manhunt that began in Spain for suspected terror cell members has now extended to France and other European Union countries.http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?...4191953&page=1

[Ningishiddza]

Originally Posted by steven

My thoughts exactly Jules ! Russia and Iran are beginning to have.... too good of a relationship

Jealous?

Is anyone allowed have a relationship with a country other than the US?

[Soultaker]

Originally Posted by lionheart62

dude if they get a lil tooo close with russia .. they gunna drop a nuclea bomb on our soil too!

Nah, Russia and China don't need to attack anyone... unless NATO attacks Russia, then Hell will break loose. All they need to do is wait for the US to lose miserably (economically, militarily and politically) in Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran... so Russia and China might fill the vacuum left by the US.

Hold on. I've read that Russia stopped supplying air defenses for Iran, or I got it wrong somehow?

[medicvet]

You know, I wonder sometimes if our entire species has a subconscious death wish. Do you think Jung would write something along these lines? I do.

And if they aren't suicidal wars, but are rather 'resource driven' wars, then the biggest irony may be that they will end up destroying what they are trying to obtain..i.e. : OIL. The huge oil storage facilities that empty into huge tankers are very vulnerable to a terrorist attack.. not to mention how vulnerable the strait of hormuz is.

[BLOODLINES]

Has anyone stopped to think that it's all farce, in a sence they ie. each country keep's most of their populace scared to death with their own media outlet's remember people there really is NO FREE PRESS anymore, as in intelligence report's what an irony that is. Alot of you on here KNOW this, I have been on here but a short time and have read enough post to realize that you are all a very inteligent group. Sometimes I think when your reading report's, articles, interview's it can make it all seem so much more calamitus then it really is (or they have you so confused) that you really don't know what to think at times---probably the outcome they are looking for. Don't get me wrong---because something is a miss BUT could most be orchestrated? everyone is in everyone's pocket, or at least in their gas tank! SAD

[Ningishiddza]

Originally Posted by BLOODLINES

Don't get me wrong---because something is a miss BUT could most be orchestrated?

We know the "terrorist" attacks in the 1970s and 1980s in Europe were orchestrated by the CIA, and European intelligence agencies. There's documentation from some of those agencies and court or committee testimony from government officials as well. Action Direct (France), the Red Army (Germany), the Red Army Brigade (Italy), Red Strike and the other groups (the Netherlands or maybe Belgium or Denmark I can't remember), were all controlled and operated by the CIA and other Intel groups for purposes of scaring the masses into not electing leftist governments. It worked. Within 10 years the governments of Germany, Belgium, the Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Denmark, Norway, and France all turned moderate or conservative after decades of leftist control or rule. This was especially critical for the "Euro-missile" vote for deploying the Pershing IIs and the BGM-109Gs.

But those "terrorist" attacks were quite amateurish. I know 8 year olds that could do better than that.

Al-Brzezinski, I mean al-Qaida, are quite silly and stupid, as are the others. If a real terrorist organization had ever existed, the US would have been destroyed long ago. I mean, if I had 19 people willing to die for a cause, 6 years later, 80% of the US would still be without electrical power.

There are dozens of actions that could be taken to cause long lasting damage to the US or to the US and numerous countries, too. A serious terrorist group would have already done so if one ever really existed. The only conlusion one could draw is that 100% of past and present terrorists are 100% incompetent 100% of the time, or their actions are being orchestrated by others.

[iulian28ti]

We know the "terrorist" attacks in the 1970s and 1980s in Europe were orchestrated by the CIA, and European intelligence agencies.

you're talking about Gladio, right?

Al-Brzezinski, I mean al-Qaida, are quite silly and stupid, as are the others. If a real terrorist organization had ever existed, the US would have been destroyed long ago.

I said the same thing some time ago.

[Ningishiddza]

Originally Posted by iulian28ti

you're talking about Gladio, right?

Mostly.

Originally Posted by iulian28ti

I said the same thing some time ago.

It's self-evident. 4-9 people with a budget of $50,000 could damage 4-9 refineries here in the US to the extent that they would be destroyed and unavailable for up to 12 years. That would mean 12 years of fuel rationing in the US. The US would have no choice but to turn into an instant socialist state overnight. Prices would skyrocket over-night as costs to transport food and clothes and junk to the retailers increases. Taxpayers would have to bail out the airline and trucking industries to keep them from going bankrupt. It'd be instant recession.

I could think of 2 dozen things off the top of my head that would throw the US into an instant recession/depression for 6-18 years. There's no way to defend against it and I would only need 20 people and $50,000 to $100,000 to pull it off.

There are "terror" organizations that have access to millions of dollars and an army of supporters and the best they can do is create a minor nuisance for a few hours.

That isn't to say there aren't "terror" organizations, there are, except I call them freedom fighters and they're over-throwing US backed-puppet dictators in Central/South America. They are very effective at what they do and control anywhere from 10% to 60% of the country (depending on where they are). They're more than just a minor nuisance.

[DontBeAfraid]

I mean, if I had 19 people willing to die for a cause, 6 years later, 80% of the US would still be without electrical power.

Bullshit. You think far too highly of yourself. We have more than the infrastructure needed to rebound from the inconvenience you might cause and to do so in under a week. The price of oil is high because of "supply" and demand yes, but supply is low do to artificial means; namely simply closing refineries.

As much as I hate it, a truly free market is the most efficient thing in the world and for you to think that you could shut down capitalism for more than a decade with a few well placed explosions is .... well, I guess its par for your level of idiocy.

[ryangti]

Iran has inaugurated a research space centre by launching a rocket in the desert in the north of the country.

Listen to the words if you can understand them,they seem to have either their own technology or some help.
http://news.bbc.co.uk

[Sandstorm]

Originally Posted by ryangti

Iran has inaugurated a research space centre by launching a rocket in the desert in the north of the country.

Listen to the words if you can understand them,they seem to have either their own technology or some help.
http://news.bbc.co.uk

Ah well, that should upset a few people then....

[Nu Kua]

I had a strong feeling when I learned that Iran lost most of its internet.
Apparently this is the fourth undersea cable cut in a week
A bunch of links related

but here are the graphs for Asia, you'll see, Iran-0-, nothing.

Also the Iranian oil bourse was supposed to get going this month, wasn't it?
Maybe its just a coincidence.

[Sandstorm]

Originally Posted by Nu Kua

I had a strong feeling when I learned that Iran lost most of its internet.
Apparently this is the fourth undersea cable cut in a week
A bunch of links related

but here are the graphs for Asia, you'll see, Iran-0-, nothing.

Also the Iranian oil bourse was supposed to get going this month, wasn't it?
Maybe its just a coincidence.

4 cables is not coincidence or unlucky, someone is doing this and doing it for a reason i.e. the are cutting cables at one point and further upstream/ downstream they are puting in place sections of cable that enable them to track what is going on/ stop all internet traffic to any given place they chose. It's easy cut the cable splice in a new section further up whilst the cable is getting repaired and no one will notice, wallah, you now have control over that cable. Perhaps not to monitor, because the amount of traffic is huge and most things to be tracked would be encrypted, but you could certainly isolate that particular cable.......

[iulian28ti]

Electronic sabotage. Stepping closer to war?

[ryangti]

Yes i was thinking along the same lines but for what purpose?
Am i right in saying to make countries vunerable and secondly we know the weather and the recession could be two factors.

It does seem a little odd now that so many have no internet as it can be also used to spread the word for terrorism,and of course break a country.

Here is an article on that same subject.
What could possibly account for such sudden and nearly crippling impairment of Internet access, e-mail, and phone lines? Granted it’s still early hours as of this writing, but a Dubai telecom executive told AP that the cause hadn’t yet been identified, and this latest service outage was “very unusual.” Congestion in the Middle East and parts of India has gotten severe, following so quickly after the break(s) on Tuesday. (If you think the U.S. is immune to these problems, remember how dependent American businesses and consumers are on support outsourced to India.)

I’d rule out seismic activity for sure: Any tectonic event so widespread would have turned up on scientific instruments.

Oh yes America may just become a victim sooner than we think,that will break them thats fer sure as nobody has really thought about an attack on the net.

copy cat” event? by terrorists you know somrthing my speed is 10 mb but lately has really slowed down after 7pm dailym could be the traffic anyone else experience the same?

[iulian28ti]

It does seem a little odd now that so many have no internet as it can be also used to spread the word for terrorism,and of course break a country.

what? you mean make them "terrorists" over night?

Electronic Sabotage/Electronic Warfare is meant to keep the enemy blind when it comes to communications. Disrupting communications makes them vulnerable, as in the event of war, a major percent of the population would rise and fight. Not because they would be "terrorists", but because many of them served in the Iran-Iraq War, and know to fight more or less.

Still, the cables lead to the rest of the world, so communication inside the country wouldn't be an issue.

The reason the links to the outside were cut is because Iran has one of the largest blog communities, so cutting their channels to the world would let the US say anything about them, just like they did in the Iran-Iraq War, when they offered support to Iraq, saying it's the lesser of the two evils, although they were the aggressors, and Iran has been attacked without warning.