Homeland Security Official found dead/Suspicious circumstances. . .

[Bigsky770]

Question: What DID THIS MAN KNOW that was worth killing him for?

Homeland Security official dead in Tucson

Head of Phoenix Immigration and Customs Enforcement office dies en route to DM event


07:43 PM MST on Tuesday, March 16, 2004


By Natalie Tejeda, Fox 11 News



Natalie Tejeda reporting for NewsChannel 3

TUCSON -- FOX 11 News has learned that one of the highest ranking Homeland Security officials in Arizona is dead.



FOX 11 News
Thomas DeRouchey, interim director of the ICE office in Phoenix, was found dead. But mystery surrounds his death and both local and federal agencies are saying little.


Thomas DeRouchey, interim special agent in charge of the Phoenix Immigration and Customs Enforcement, was on the way to an announcement of a new federal border initiative by Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security Asa Hutchinson at Davis Monthan Air Force Base.


DeRouchey was found dead in his car on Interstate 10 about a mile north of Tangerine Road. That is inside the Marana city limits.


"The firefighters did find him in a car in the median and he was deceased," said Katie Heiden, a spokesperson for Northwest Fire in Tucson.


Heiden confirmed that DeRouchey was alone in the car and a weapon was found in the car.


Michael J. Garcia, assistant secretary of ICE, issued a statement confirming the death and offering condolences to DeRouchey's family and friends.


Dr. Bruce Parks, Pima County Medical Examiner, refused to release any details of the death, but confirmed that he is investigating. Parks referred all comments to the Marana Police Department.


The Marana Police Department refused any comment, saying any information would have to come from ICE.


The announcement of a new border initiative by the Bush administration along the Arizona-Mexico border went on as scheduled Tuesday morning with no mention of DeRouchey's death.


ICE spokesperson Russell Ahr told the Associated Press that DeRouchey's death occurred in a "one vehicle accident", but local paramedics say they responded to a call of "gun shots" and not an accident. Ahr claimed there was damage to DeRouchey's vehicle.


DeRouchey had been a federal agent since 1988. He was named interim head of the Phoenix office of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office last summer. ICE is a part of the Department of Homeland Security. No mention of DeRouchey's death was made at the Homeland Security event at Davis Monthan Air Force Base on Tuesday where the assistant secretary announced a new initiative to deal with border issues over the next several months.

[dutchie]

Well, what do YOU think?

[Bigsky770]

Oh, Dutchie . . . .

Here you have a Mr. Thomas DeRouchey, Head of Phoenix Immigration and Customs Enforcement/For the office of Homeland Security.

He is on his way to an announcement of a new federal border initiative by Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security Asa Hutchinson at Davis Monthan Air Force Base.

He meets with (what?) "Death by misadventure,?" found dead in his car on Interstate 10 about a mile north of Tangerine Road. Inside of the Marana city limits.

Here he was, alone in the car with a weapon that was found in the car. Firefighters found him dead, car was on the median strip.

The announcement of a new border initiative by the Bush administration along the Arizona-Mexico border went on as scheduled Tuesday morning with no mention of DeRouchey's death was made at the Homeland Security event at Davis Monthan Air Force Base. It is customary that someone would have included in an announcement at this official gathering an offer of condolences made to the family and also co-workers publicly, This breach of ettiquette seems very strange indeed.

This happened (when?) BEFORE an announcement of a new border initiative by the Bush administration along the Arizona-Mexico border . . . .

Here You have Dr. Bruce Parks, Pima County Medical Examiner, refusing to release any details of the death, but confirmed that he is investigating. Parks referred all comments to the Marana Police Department. (Let's play pass-the-buck)

And here You have also, The Marana Police Department, who are refusing any comment, saying any information would have to come from ICE. (what/who? ME tell?)

Additionally/Here you have the good Bureau of "Put 'em on ICE" spokesperson Russell Ahr, who told the Associated Press that DeRouchey's death occurred in a "one vehicle accident", but local paramedics say they responded to a call of "gun shots" and not an accident. Ahr claimed there was damage to DeRouchey's vehicle. (conflicting stories/accounts)

Notice here it is said "gun shots". (plural) If he had commited suicide, he would have only been able to squeeze-off one round, (the thinking here is that he would have done the traditional 'coup-de-grace' -w- one bullet to the brain, any additional shots would have been IMPOSSIBLE as the first bullet would have effectivly destroyed the brains' ability to send command to his trigger-finger to squeeze-off another round.) Yet here it is stated in an account "shots" meaning more-than-one. Answer, someone else was there.

Damage indicated in this report reflects the possibility of being forced from the road? (would this be so that a 'hit' could be carried-out?)

And this "new initiative" to deal with "border security" over the next several months. . . How 'different' is this initiative in dealing with these border control problems than ones in the past? Was Thomas simply "in somebody's way?" (or perhaps) did he find something out he meant to disclose at this 'announcement?' Did he 'Know' too much, as he had worked as a Federal Agent since 1988? He was named interim head of the Phoenix office of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement office last summer, what did he know? Why was this position "on the interim," meaning temporary? Were they dissatisfied with him because he was a 'loose cannon?' (that needed to be silenced?). . . .

Anyone wanna place bets on just how far this "investigation" will go? I'll bet it's already under wraps. . . . .

Joe (Bigsky770)

[Maleko]

According to this :http://www.kvoa.com/Global/story.asp...2&nav=HMO5LaC9

It was suicide, (as far as the govt is concerned) case closed

[prezhorusin04]

No way this was suicide..Funny how these "suicides" are always happening in Government..-My guess is that this man was planning to speak out against the open borders issue, or THEY felt he was going to..-Maybe they just wanted a new man for the job..?

Here are some related links..They don't help much, but i'll see if i can find some other good ones.
http://www.awrm.org/cgi-bin/ultimate...21;t=002527;p=

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...3/133254.shtml

http://www.americanpatrol.com

[lotrfan55345]

I dont "get it". Why does Dubya *want* non-secure borders?

[prezhorusin04]

i'd say multiple reasons seem "logical"

1)Cheaper workers.

2)The Mexican VOTE

3)To incite RACE WARS between MExicans, Black Muslims, and White America..

[prezhorusin04]

In particular, WHITE CHRISTIAN AMERICA..

[Emerald_Dragon]

>I dont "get it". Why does Dubya *want* non-secure borders?

Well, we all need something/someone to blame when things go wrong. If our borders are porous, then we should do something about it, after something bad happens.

sounds like a coverup in action. suicide the official story when reported facts don't support it. I'm sure they will, once the spin doctors finish their work. its how things work.

good catch, whoever caught it. still don't know whats in store on the border. read of a shootout on the border not too long ago. wonder if theres a connection. could be buried by now. the story.

[TrishaYrwoodFan]

Originally Posted by lotrfan55345

I dont "get it". Why does Dubya *want* non-secure borders?

This is easy...Anything leading to unrest, or chaos, trouble, etc. in the US, leads to stricter and stricter laws, and eventually he probably thinks he'll be our dictator. He's definately not working for the people of the US, but for his "higher" interests, and in the end when we're overtaken by the commies, he probably thinks he'll be elevated to a really high position in their gubmint.

[lotrfan55345]

He Prez, is Japan controlled by secret societies? If not, would it be a good thing to move there?

[prezhorusin04]

You'd be very hard pressed to find a place on the map that's not controlled by these Elites..

-Or in the process of being controlled..

[mickydoolittle]

This board isn't controlled. ... or is it?

[dutchie]

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eeeehhhh... no.

[lotrfan55345]

...but when it gets larger (over 1000 members), there will be a LOT of disinformation agents around here trolling.

[mickydoolittle]

who's to post there aren't already dis-info agents trolling here? How are you so sure kid?

[lotrfan55345]

Micky, PM some names

[Bigsky770]

- - -Sounds like "Deja Vu", There is a thread over @ "GodlikeProductions" that is discussing this, I have to wonder, could there be a possible connection?

Two border agents found dead
LUKE TURF
Tucson Citizen

Two off-duty Border Patrol agents were found dead on the Tohono O'odham Nation early Friday morning.
Tohono O'odham Police officers found the bodies of the man and woman at 2:30 a.m., in what officers initially believed was an abandoned vehicle, according to U.S. Border Patrol spokeswoman Andrea Zortman.
The vehicle was in the San Xavier District of the Nation, just southwest of Tucson, she said. She did not know what kind of vehicle it was.
She also did not say what sector of Border Patrol the agents work in. The Tucson sector covers all of southern Arizona, except around Yuma.
Tohono O'odham Police is investigating and the FBI has sent an evidence response team, Zortman said.
"That's all we're putting out right now pending notification of family," she said.
No other information was available this afternoon.

Direct LINK to the story:

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breakin...ents_dead.html

- - -Submitted by Joe (Bigsky770)

[FactsOverFiction]

http://www.dailystar.com/dailystar/dailystar/25840.php

Seems to be a "typical" (sadly) murder/suicide one of many reported in the news

http://news.google.com/news?q=Murder...ff&sa=N&tab=wn

[Defiant Noquisi]

Uh guys, not to quell the excitement over a possible conspiracy, but for the ones in the future dont get all excited because a medical examiner witholds comment. Thats a regular occurence until the examination is complete, especially when there are "weird" circumstances.

[stewey]

I bet he was struck by Aussie Bloke's meteor.

Seriously, there are things that are not conspiracies.

[Doomer]

America will pay dearly for "electing" George W. Bush. If America reelects him, it will be the beginning of the end. :(

[stewey]

Unfortunately, Kerry is even worse than Bush. Bush sucks, Kerry sucks more. Oh god, were screwed.