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Old Mar 14th, 2010, 7:30 PM   #1
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A good life point

What is the point in being good? What is that point in being good? Looking for all walks of life to respond on this topic. Does being good do something for you? What exactly? How does being good pay off in the short run? I mean, when you think about it, you don't have to be good so as long as you don't make real life enemies.

To me, being cool is not being good or evil. I consider myself cool. When you're cool you say and do things that are maybe deemed bad, but not deemed evil. Like MJs "Who's bad?", I'm sort of that kind of bad. The cool bad. And I feel pretty freakin' good being cool minded. I have no enemies except the regular such as the devil and the federal government in this big freakin' war we're all in in one way or another.

I look at good and evil as both evil. You could be so good that you don't comprehend that you are restricting freedom of, say, speech. So, good and evil are one in the same with me. I'd rather hang around people that are cool than good or evil. I never let good people fool me.

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If a good person found $1000 dollars they'd turn it in. If a cool person found $1000 dollars they'd keep it, and figure they were God damn lucky. You always hear a good person say turn yourself in if a warrant is out for you. But they dont care to know the unique situation and circumstances surrounding you. I mean, each person's situation is unique. Take me for instance... I shouldn't go to jail since I am one of those people who can't do number one when it is time to go alieviate myself when being in the presence of other people. A good person don't give a damn about that. Though I feel I have right to self-defense to not put myself in torture like that. In other words, if I had a warrant out for me, I will absolutely not turn myself in. A time ago, when I went into the county, they didn't care about my lil problem even though I told the lady at some desk that asks us questions, and it was torture than a motherfreaker. I vow my self-defense over any thing or any one. It's like my life in exchange for your's. Anyway, you see how if someone is just doing their job they are called a good person? But then you see in my case how come I call the good people evil. Ha!
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Old Mar 14th, 2010, 7:53 PM   #2
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Not sure if this is what you mean, but I feel that by being good, or doing something good. Karma will be good to you in return.
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Old Mar 14th, 2010, 7:58 PM   #3
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Well lets see, I am a correctional officer... and in my field, if you do something to get incarcerated you are no longer a good guy.. not pointing any fingers at you, just stating how it is in corrections. You screw up, get tossed in jail, tough s**t buddy... shoulda stayed outta trouble then you wouldn't have to worry about it..... then there is also the guys who get in trouble and abuse the goodness in people and then an officer ends up getting shanked or killed.... sooo its just better to be good, then you don't have to go to jail and i don't have to become evil by being good at my job.....
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Old Mar 14th, 2010, 8:42 PM   #4
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Good and Evil: Completely subjective ideas which can't be completely agreed upon by any two (alleged) intelligences.

Is donating a kidney to someone who needs it good?

Is killing someone to get a kidney for someone who needs it good?

Is receiving a kidney when you are elderly and going to die soon anyway good?

Is it evil to receive a kidney from someone when you are elderly and going to die soon anyway?

Is it evil to prolong a life?

Is it evil to prolong a life if the one living it has no wish to continue living?

I could go on all day, but you get my point. What is good to me is not necessarily good to you, and it can't ever be.

So, to answer your question, if it is doing things which are "good" in your eyes that make you happy, then that's what you should do. Same for "evil".
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Old Mar 15th, 2010, 10:59 AM   #5
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That's what I was about to say: 'good' at what?'

Good thief, good saint, good for nothing, good for everything, it's all good, good grief, on and on.

The word 'good' means nothing more than 'something accomplished to the satisfaction of the action-taker'. The word itself is utterly neutral. What is the point of being 'good'. Gain. There is no other purpose. But 'gain' could be said to be the motive of everything.
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I look at good and evil as both evil. You could be so good that you don't comprehend that you are restricting freedom of, say, speech.
Then that means you're not being good anymore... at least not completely.

The fascinating thing about "goodness" is that it is impossible for it to have a "bad" extreme. Once you are extreme in that manner, it becomes something else, and the goodness is not thoroughly there anymore. Balance is required.

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Take me for instance... I shouldn't go to jail since I am one of those people who can't do number one when it is time to go alieviate myself when being in the presence of other people. A good person don't give a damn about that. Though I feel I have right to self-defense to not put myself in torture like that. In other words, if I had a warrant out for me, I will absolutely not turn myself in. A time ago, when I went into the county, they didn't care about my lil problem even though I told the lady at some desk that asks us questions, and it was torture than a motherfreaker. I vow my self-defense over any thing or any one. It's like my life in exchange for your's. Anyway, you see how if someone is just doing their job they are called a good person? But then you see in my case how come I call the good people evil. Ha!
So because you have a urinary issue, you should be allowed to get away with crime and not have to go to jail? Yeah, I don't think so. You know you have this problem beforehand. Yet you choose to commit a crime? It's totally your fault in this scenario and you don't deserve any special treatment. If they were denying you medication or medical equipment you had to have for an actual disease or disorder while you were in jail, that would be wrong of them. But unable to pee around other people? lol. Yeah, no. Not a legit enough problem for you to get special treatment after you decided to break the law and land yourself there.
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