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Old Apr 12th, 2005, 12:13 AM   #101
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Testimony of Mr. Mark McCandlish, US Air Force
December 2000
Mark McCandlish is an accomplished aerospace illustrator and has worked for many of the top aerospace corporations in the United States. His colleague, Brad Sorenson, with whom he studied, has been inside a facility at Norton Air Force Base, where he witnessed alien reproduction vehicles, or ARVs, that were fully operational and hovering. In his testimony, you will learn that the US not only has operational antigravity propulsion devices, but we have had them for many, many years, and they have been developed through the study, in part, of extraterrestrial vehicles over the past fifty years. In addition, we have the drawing from aerospace inventor Brad Sorenson of the devices that he saw, as well as a schematic of one of these alien reproduction vehicles — in some remarkable detail.

"What he did, apparently, was acquire a high voltage power source — a DC (direct current) power source, and he took a couple of quarter-inch-thick copper plates about a foot in diameter, with a lead coming out of the middle of each one at the top and the bottom. [Then], he basically embedded them in a type of plastic resin like polycarbonate or Plexiglas, or some other kind of clear resin where you could see the plates, and you could see the material. Apparently, he did everything he could to get all the little air bubbles and stuff out of there, so there wouldn’t be any pathways for the electricity to break down the material and arc through them. The experiment was to see how much voltage you could put on this capacitor — the sub-plate capacitor — in this arrangement; how much voltage could you put on this thing before the insulating material begins to just break down?"

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Old Apr 12th, 2005, 12:14 AM   #102
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this is gonna be a longer one...

more testimony from Mr. Mark McCandlish, US Air Force...

Well, he got up to about a million volts, and the thing would begin to float, and it floated in accordance with principles that had been described in a patent that was filed back in the late 1950s/early 1960s by a gentleman called Thomas Townsend Brown. Brown and another individual by the name of Dr. Biefield had done this, so this effect became known as the Biefield-Brown effect. Well, [Stambough] apparently duplicated the experiments done by Biefield and Brown, [and] the one aspect they found about this arrangement was that the levitation or movement would occur in the direction of the positively-charged plate. So, if you had two plates, one is negative, and one is positive because of the direct current system. If you have the positive plate on top, it would move in that direction. If you had it on a pendulum, it would always swing in whatever direction the positive plate was facing.

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Old Apr 12th, 2005, 12:16 AM   #103
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Now, I started looking at the design of this thing, and it occurred to me that what I was looking at was a huge Tesla coil, which is kind of like an open-air transformer. What happens is that when you pass electricity through this large diameter coil, it creates a field. That’s what this system does: it takes electricity, using two large 24-volt marine-style batteries. You basically use that to somehow put an alternating current through these windings. [Then], you step up that electricity through the secondary coil, which is on the column in the middle, and you get this extremely high voltage. You can selectively put the voltage on any of these 48 capacitor sections.

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...It was all linked fiber-optically. Well, why would that make any difference? Why would you want to have a system that’s all linked fiber-optically? The reason is that if you find a way to control gravity, you reduce the mass of it. If you are able to do that, what are the other side benefits? What if you somehow found a way of tapping into this scalar field, this zero-point energy? If what the scientists believe is true, then the zero-point energy is actually what keeps the electrons around the atomic structure of everything in our universe. It keeps them energized — it keeps those little electrons spinning in their different clouds around the nucleus of every atom in our world. It keeps them going, keeps them from crashing into the nucleus like a satellite orbiting the Earth gets pulled into the atmosphere by gravitational drag. Well, if you have a way of interfering with that interaction, that absorption of zero-point energy by those electrons, they begin to slow down.

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Every atom in the universe is just like a little gyroscope: it’s got all these electrons spinning around the nucleus, and they have a gyroscopic effect, which is the effect we call inertia and mass. We have one nucleus with a proton and a neutron and one electron — hydrogen — spinning around like that: not very much mass, not too much inertia. If you take uranium 235, [with] 235 electrons all spinning around in their different clouds, there is a lot of mass; there is a lot of inertia, because it’s like a bigger gyroscope, in a way. At least, that’s the analogy that I’ve kind of picked up here. But, if you have a way of interfering with that absorption of zero-point energy so those electrons become de-energized, they begin to slow down. The effect of that inertia, that gyroscopic effect, begins to drop off, and the mass drops off too, even though the atomic structure is intact; and it’s still there — it’s still uranium, but it’s not as heavy.

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One of the things Einstein said was that you could never accelerate anything up to and past the speed of light. If you did, you would have to have all the energy in the universe, because as you accelerate through space, mass increases. One of the old films showing this concept shows a train going faster and faster towards the speed of light, but the train keeps getting bigger and bigger until the engine just can’t pull it, so it can never pass the speed of light. But, what if you have a system, a device, that absorbs that zero-point energy and prevents it from interacting with the atomic structure of the vehicle? And at the same time, it’s providing additional power to the capacitor section — this whole electrical system that is going on in the vehicle, that’s running. In effect, the faster you go, the easier it becomes to go up to and exceed the speed of light. Brad said that in this exhibit at Norton Air Force Base, a three star general said that these vehicles were capable of doing light speed or better. Oh, by the way, the largest of these vehicles was about 120 to 130 feet in diameter. I mean, that’s massive when you think about it — it’s just huge.

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One final chunk from Mark McCandlish

One of the things that I believe happens, is when you take a system like this and you fire it up, everything in the system starts to become mass-canceled. The next thing that happens is that the electrons that are flowing through the system also become mass-canceled. What does that mean? It means as that system and all the electrons flowing through that big Tesla coil become mass-canceled, it also becomes the perfect super-conductor, which means the efficiency of the systems goes right through the ceiling. You get dramatic efficiency, just like the whole thing was dunked into liquid nitrogen or made out of pure silver or pure gold, which at certain temperatures are perfect conductors — it becomes lighter and can accelerate at incredible speeds.

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Old Apr 14th, 2005, 8:34 PM   #108
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Very interesting material. . .

. . .I always wondered WHAT the "Scientific Community" had thought about such information, because this is getting into those areas that could (IF true) completely change forever our views on energy, the ways that it is extracted and utilized, and further make "Petroleum" as a fuel as outdated as coal. Could the governments of the world (as) controlled by O.P.E.C. allow this? My thinking is NOT. I truly believe that if ANY conspiracies exist, THIS could be one, in that "Oil as the dominent base-fuel" in this world is about to meet its' end, and in this MAY explain our higher fuel-prices, because O.P.E.C. realizing this fact could be attempting to take as much profits from the sales of this resource knowing that so-called "FREE" energy may be around the corner. . .

. . .Zyztem, (tell you something else) that I have heard: There are many stories going-around on the internet that THEY (the "Aliens") are HERE BUT are NOT FRIENDLY and have been scavenging human-body parts (for) their own health, and also have used cattle in the same way (because) of a supposed problem within their physical aspect that causes them difficulties with food and the consumption of which and also that problem in the removal of wastes from their bodies after the food has been consumed, supposedly this attributed from a long-ago war that very-nearly destroyed their peoples en-total'. . .Most horrid. This makes no sense to me, never has, and I'll tell you why:

. . .Let's work with the IDEA that YES, the "Aliens" are here. Okay. With this stated and with the technology that would be available to themselves, (such as that outlined in the material you have submitted) it would have to be a given that they would have to be far superior to ourselves indeed, as different from us as we are to common chimpanzees.

. . .It would have to then follow that IF they were INDEED that far ahead of ourselves AND that superior, there is no-possible way we could be viewed (or) seen by themselves as threatening to either their persons (or) their agendas. Let's allow for that idea the benefit of the doubt as well, let's say this is 'so'.

. . .Okay, then. Given that IF all of the aforementioned WERE TO BE TRUE, then I would have to ask those that would think the "Aliens" as threatening-life-forms to ourselves, WHY HAVE THE ALIENS NOT ONLY MADE THEMSELVES KNOWN, BUT MADE A SLAVE-RACE OF WE HUMANS IF THEY WERE EVIL? The answer is, (well of course) they have not/surely we would be aware of this 'Slavery' and as well live as humans oppressed, WHICH we are not. . .At least NOT by the "extra terrestrials", anywho. . .

. . .Then I ask? Is it possible that TPTB would seek to maintain the "status-quo" as is and POSSIBLY disseminate as 'propaganda' these stories about the "evil aliens", knowing that this would cause the populations of the world to resist aid from the Aliens in our progression towards being free from the tyranny that we deal with NOW, (which is) "energy at cost?"

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> because this is getting into those areas that could (IF true)
>completely change forever our views on energy

the problem though, IMO, is that it only takes one nutjob to ruin it. analagous to nuclear energy, "free" energy could be used as a deadly weapon. we had an idea what an atom bomb would do. but not until we saw what happened to Japan and John Wayne, did we realize what we had created. Imagine how much damage could be done with a no cost energy source powerplant that went out of control. Chernobyl times 10+. we might not live to learn from that lesson.


i'm not so sure oil is a fossil fuel anymore. i'm more inclined to think its a natural earth waste-product. like lava from a volcano. how many compressed dead animals and trees, does it take to create/fill a barrel of oil?


>WHY HAVE THE ALIENS NOT ONLY MADE THEMSELVES KNOWN,
>BUT MADE A SLAVE-RACE OF WE HUMANS IF THEY WERE EVIL?

because they're too few and we are too many. if they made any overt attempt to apply control, we would all revolt and willingly die, fighting them for our right to self-rule. so, instead, they probably work with governments for what they want. hence the gov't coverup angle.

i'm not sure they're "evil". i've read alot about the subject and have yet to find stories about them eating people. OTOH, i've read about them eating kids *chuckle*, humorous and unbelievable, but whatever.

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Old Apr 16th, 2005, 9:20 PM   #110
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. . .I always wondered WHAT the "Scientific Community" had thought about such information, because this is getting into those areas that could (IF true) completely change forever our views on energy, the ways that it is extracted and utilized, and further make "Petroleum" as a fuel as outdated as coal. Could the governments of the world (as) controlled by O.P.E.C. allow this? My thinking is NOT. I truly believe that if ANY conspiracies exist, THIS could be one, in that "Oil as the dominent base-fuel" in this world is about to meet its' end, and in this MAY explain our higher fuel-prices, because O.P.E.C. realizing this fact could be attempting to take as much profits from the sales of this resource knowing that so-called "FREE" energy may be around the corner. . .
Energy and the consumption thereof touches so many of today's industries that it would damn near collapse the economy if it were suddenly free. Transportation, shipping of goods and consumer use alone touches so much of what we pay for. I, too, believe that governments (and their supporting "lobbies") would never allow something of that magnitude to get out. However, I have some hope yet for scientific circles. I've been researching this stuff like a mother and it seems like more and more physicists, especially in the quantum flavor, are realizing that not only does "zero point" energy exist, but may play a large part in the missing matter/energy of the universe.

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. . . .Then I ask? Is it possible that TPTB would seek to maintain the "status-quo" as is and POSSIBLY disseminate as 'propaganda' these stories about the "evil aliens", knowing that this would cause the populations of the world to resist aid from the Aliens in our progression towards being free from the tyranny that we deal with NOW, (which is) "energy at cost?"

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I believe TPTB are trying to exploit every angle they can conceive of to keep this type of thing under wraps. If it was ever acknowledged by them that "we are not alone," the basic fundamentals that most humans operate on would be shattered.

I'll take the religious angle first... Most people believe in a creator/God of some sort. To learn that there are other creations would have a profound impact on the belief that we are God's children in his image. Then again, people might believe that God decided to give us an "older brother" to keep an eye out for us.

Then there's the whole xenophobia thing. "It ain't us, so it don't belong." The whole us and them thing. Look at how rampant racism is now at what essentially is a difference in skin color. Look at nationalism... we're better than you 'cause we're from XYZ country.

There's the technology, too. Everyone (mostly) knows that our closest neighbor is light years away. How'd they get here? They must be more advanced, therefore, if they could do that, they must be able to kill us.

Most damning of all, the US government will never freely admit that it has been lying for over 50 years.

I believe that for the most part, people are a lot more capable to adapt than they are given credit for by their "leaders." Everything seems to running down like an old pocketwatch. Even I'm beginning to feel blase about being blase. Something needs to change in this world and if this stuff is true, it could make so many things so much better.

I think what it all boils down to is that TPTB are relying heavily on the status quo. I think that we, as citizens of not only a nation, but of a world, must change that status.
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Old Jun 2nd, 2005, 12:00 AM   #111
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Well i didnt really read the replies. Heres what i have to say about it all. Each BOLD section is about certain topics! BTW most people WILL NOT LIKE what i have to say. I am not religous nor am i athiest. I am nothing. Please dont remove this post, we all have opnions and this is what this forum is about

The video itself....

First off the video seems to be.... "Made For TV". It looks and feels like your watching a bad "B" rated tv movie. It just looks staged but with people that some of us know(like the actor). I mean why is this thing not shown to the public(not through a forum a rare website)? Why is no ABC, NBC, CBS....etc media there? Because its probably fake.

Why wasnt this in the news or even online news or at some site(i thought the media was there, :waits for excuse: ). What is this just like at a few UFO sites and here? Further proof its either staged.

Probably just a bunch of HARDCORE ufo people with good scripts or that know alot about "ufos and aliens" and they deicded to make a "film" and convince a few others about it.

I would have better believed it if they ACTUAL proof instead of more "blah blah blah" like i always hear from most thing that people believe in. Lilke VIDEOS of this "technology" or videos of these "aliens" or "ships". And you think they would seeing as how this was like such a "Big event" a coming out of sorts...a letting the world know thing!

No evidence (in this video)
Like the part about the satelites not showing any UFOS.

Well first off all its amazing how all the questions have magical answers! Gee no evidence of UFOS. Magic Sanitizing. Give me a break. Like the "Sanitizers" can do that all? There are so many UFOS sightings how do they know what to look for and what no to look for? Video is such a staged event its sad.

The "advanced technology".
2 things.

1.Like the goverment really wants advanced technology out there? If they showed congress it and congress passed it on to be made or whatever it wouldnt. If there was a cure for cancer the goverment wouldnt want it out there because it would kill the $$$ coming in for doctors that give treatments and all that. Just like the goverment(and doctors) dont like Kinseologists(they really hate them) or Natural Alternatives(some dont).

2. Anti-Gravity? Been watching to many movies i think. Is it even possible? Ill give the benefit of the doubt here. Maybe some scientist invented the technology and they decided to say "Hey lets say we discovered how to make it because of a UFO and make people believe in UFOS in our confrence".

If we had the technology we would just use it and prove it through the media instead of "waiting" to show congress. They cant say NO when you use it and they see it on the news. Excuses or lies IMO.


Aliens able to stop our missles..etc:
If aliens and ufos and whatever is so real and they have the technology to destroy us or they would have made contact. THEY WOULD HAVE. People need to stop making excuses for the UF/Alien thing. How hundrends of more years are we going to make excuses? What about 300 years from now when we are in space and still seeing supposed "Ufos". Then what? Still the same conspiracy people, diffrent time!

I mean you cant make a whole planet believe in UFOS. There has never been solid proof. And there are many things UFOs could be. Like chrisitans have told me satan makes them appear to get people to get into the "alien" thing to get away from believing in God.

So really UFOs can be anything. Satans Work, Actual Aliens, Advanced Humans, Maybe we are in a fake world and UFOS and GOD and the YETI are just there to confuse us and make us fight! Just because a bunch of people see the UFOs everyone expects because a bunch of people see it that EVERYONE has to believe it.

Everyone sees lots of things from GHOSTS, UFOS, BIGFOOT, MARY(Catholic thing)...etc. So all this really is is just one of those things that no one will ever believe. And just like as always anyone that doesnt believe in UFOS thinks UFO people are just crazy. Just like people think christians are crazy . Anyone that bevelies in anything is crazy.

Talking is all anyone does in it. Heck if i were to believe something because of talking and some other things then id be a chrisitan. Christians have miracles, the bible..etc on there side yet no one believes them. This is the same thing. Unprovable to the general publice(the Alien/Ufo thing not the video).

Im not saying you UFO people are weirdos or anything its just there comes a point when people become TO obssesed when it takes over their lives. I mean i lost a friend because he "seen" a ufo and said he was abducted and afterwards he said they had a base on the back of the moon and because no one believed him he killed himself.

BTW i mention the christian thing alot simply because i get thumped alot by my pain the butt family members.

How can aliens even exist if life was an accident?
It always ake me laugh how supposedly most people believe life was an accident and thats how we started...whatever. Then if were accidents and were the only ones then there cant be UFOS. To many conpiracies, to many cults, to much crap. I know some things are real on this board but when you put them all together they JUST DONT FIT with each other because 98% of is fake. Like it or not all you have to do is look at all of it for yourself.
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It is NOT about aliens at all.

'They' (whooooo) have visited the earth no more than a hand full of times the last half century, and, in leaving their technology behind, the powers that be have learned and reproduced the anti-gravity technology. NotablY the 1947 crash has set off the initiation into these technologies. Think about it. What would be more feasible: 1) we are visited on a regular basis by several alien species, and 'they' keep themselves hidden in such a way that never any tangible trace of evidence can be found? OR 2) the earth has been visited in the past by Alien species who have left their technology (either by accident or on purpose) and orgs like NRO have acquired and reproduced such technologies?

If it's 2) then a lot if not ALL of the sightings in the last few decades have been man-made crafts, and God only knows where we've been using those crafts. I personally think it is US who have colonised the dark side of the moon and have an advanced research centre over there, far away from the nosy satellites of NASA and commercial birds.

Werner von Braun shortly before he died said: "It's all about the bottomline. First our designated enemy will be the Russian communists, then it will be international terrorists, then meteorites, and finally, a simulated attack from 'outer space' will ensure a global trend towards weaponising space. Don't believe it. It is a plot to secure weapon industry profits well into the twenty second century.".

Wouldn't a 'fake' attack on earth be a great time to disclose some of the recovered technology as well? No-one would question motives twice when earth is 'under attack' and we (NRO, CIA or whatever species of human cockroaches) present a valid 'new' technology to defend ourselves from these invented hostiles.

Reaons for 50 years of secrecy? Think about it. If I were to show you how you could build a craft that would take you from Tokio to New York in under 12 minutes flying through the stratosphere AND that craft could be built pratically with 'off the shelf' parts (with exception from some tricky mercury handling and vacuum chamber), would you share that technology with the public if you were part of the powers that be? Would you give THAT kind of FREEDOM away? What about a ZPE unit or dark matter generator? Very dangerous in public hands. Therefore ridiculed and silenced until the time is right and fossil fuels are really obsolete and ZPE can be properly regulated by the appropriate organizations. Even a simple thing as a Hydrogen Fuel cell, what kind of tax is the govt. going to impose on that? Tax water?

I commend Steven Greer on what he's trying to do (disclosureproject.org) but frankly, we will not see disclosure in our lifetime unless there is a global attitude change. Let's not forget that disclosure opposing forces (read:corrupt capitalists) own the media (like Rupert Murdoch and Ted Turner to name but two).

Let me know if you would like plans to:

- Hydrogen Cell (run combustion engine on water) Reproduced in Phillipines and by Stanley.
- Flux Liner (Alien Reproduction Vehicle) Reproduced first in New Mexico and are all over the place these days. I estimate there are well over 2,000 manmade ARV's active today.
- ZPE device using Tesla technology. Most noticably reproduced by Paul Baumann (Testatika). Still active.

I'll send you what I have for free.

Please note that reproducing working versions of the above mentioned devices for publicity/fame/fortune reasons will most likely get you killed. I wish I could insert a smiley at this point, but I can't.

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I love how this guy claims that Pentagon officials and congressmen have "cried" to him. It sounds as if alien contact has been made, but some people are too afraid to spill their guts to all but a handful of troublemakers. Get real!

The truth probably is, contact has been made, but the aliens are really the demons predicted in 2 Thess. and other Biblical references. It's real easy to lie to mankind, and those who are "perishing" will believe every drop of it. They will probably show up and promise us the moon and maybe more, but it will be the big lie we were warned about. If you don't go along, you lose your head.
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I realise that this thread was started about 2 years ago, but with the strength it had, I'm really surprised that it's died out.

I'm quite glad that the Video (in the first Post) still works, I'm planning on watching it this weekend now...

I've always thought that the whole Alien Cover-up thing was either based on a religious thing (Aliens existing really messes up religion!) or was just to avoid mass-hysteria... After reading through these Forums I see that those are just the beginnings of what could be happening.

I'm going to keep reading through this place, as well as the various websites you guys have posted... Hopefully I'll learn something.

There are so many things I want to respond to, but I'll limit it to one comment:

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How can aliens even exist if life was an accident?
It always ake me laugh how supposedly most people believe life was an accident and thats how we started...whatever. Then if were accidents and were the only ones then there cant be UFOS. To many conpiracies, to many cults, to much crap. I know some things are real on this board but when you put them all together they JUST DONT FIT with each other because 98% of is fake. Like it or not all you have to do is look at all of it for yourself.
It might seem a bit strange to some to have the same "Accident" happen in more than one place, but those people fail to realise the great vastness of our Universe. With billions and Billions of Solar Systems out there, the chance of this "Accident" not happening multiple times would be insane. I'm not saying that every System out there has (intelligent) life, but c'mon talking like this makes me think you still believe the Sun orbits the Earth.

I could go off onto the whole "Earth was Seeded by Aliens" theory... But that's another topic all together.


Anyhow, hopefully my interest in this Thread will breath new life into it...
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Well the thread just slowed down a bit,thats all,the subject will never die though.
Steven Greer was just on Coast To Coast,here is the link;

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/

Then we now have Dan Aykroyd with his new film,,,Link;

http://www.daufo.com/

Then take a look at this film,,,,,,Link;


http://www.theufomovie.com/home.html

One thing that really has me wondering now,it's some of the film shot from the Space Shuttle,the round transparent cloud like objects traveling in our orbit and near the shuttle.One film shows a group of objects in our orbit glowing,then another one passes the shuttle and joins the group at it's center and it begins to glow. :amaz:

Now what the hell are those things? Are they some sort of lifeform,or are they alien spacecraft,,,,who knows!!!!

Watch the trailers on these movies links and you will see what i am talking about.

SOMETHING IS OUT THERE!!LOL!

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No one has seemed to answer the question of how we got here in the first place.Maybe we were put here by another species from some distant galaxy.
mabey we are like cattle,being raised for the inter galactic fast food joints.
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On a more serious note,i just watched the trailer"the greatest story ever denied"
the one thing that was strikeing to me was the apollo 8 radio transmisions where the astronaut says, santa claus exists.
that could mean anything,but i think it means that ufo's were varified.just code,when houston replies "you would be best to know" ect.from their viewpoint in space.cool stuff.
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Demonskates;Yep,,really wonder what they saw up there to say,'Santa Claus Exists' :
You bring up a point that i have often thought about,where we placed here and didn't evolve from green slime like we are taught.Really strange how human life has been found on remote islands in the Pacific,and in some of the most remote parts of the world.Must be some pretty incredabile slime!

Well here is a link to Greers new book,just a promo deal for it,but next chance i get i'm gonna pick up a copy.


http://www.disclosureproject.org/hiddentruth.htm
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Well now,looks like Dr.Greer went way out into left field with his new book,matter of fact WAY FAR OUT!!into left field!

Now he claims he can manipulate gravity, summons aliens,levitate,you name it.Looks like he just blew the Disclosure project all to hell and back with the claims he made in the book.Not many people are going to buy into the Disclosure project after reading the book,he pretty much blew it all away!Who knows what's going on with him now,maybe he does have weird ass stuff going on,or he sold out to discredit the project he started.Or just maybe the guy went NUTZ!!!!!

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Dan Burisch Disclosure Dvd/get It!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This post is especially interesting to me because a member of my family worked at Area-51 and S-4 in the 1980s and 90s. Dan Burisch started in 1986 as a microbiologist, and ended up working deep in the underground lab directly with the live extraterrestrial that was brought to S-4 after the crash of their disc near Kingman. Dan talks in great detail about his interaction with this being on the DVD that was just released and his testimony has recently been verified by others. (Copies of the DVD are available at http://www.eaglesdisobey.net) You can also see clips from the DVD and other material recorded by Project Camelot on Google Videos - there's a link to them from the website.
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And his testimony would have nothing to do with selling a DVD.....right?
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New Vid

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