FULL DISCLOSURE

[SladeLoD]

I don't know if this has been posted here yet but i found this on GLP,,,,,,,interesting to say in the least.Bigsky and Vegas if this has been please delete this.For those that are interested,please download the latest version of windows media player,,download this(long download),,,grab some munchies and watch,you will be there for awhile.One very interesting point brought up here is the use on Tesla's scalar wave technology.



http://www.netro.ca/disclosure/npccmenu.htm


NANU,,,,,,,,,,NANU,,,,,,,,,Slade

[Nexious]

Yea I watched all of it and I am shocked.

[Bonafide]

Thank you. I also watched the whole thing. I am beginning to believe that all those lights in the sky might just be visitors. Thanks again! T-Bone

[40oz]

I am "straddling the fence" on this subject matter, However one thing is very clear to me.
The individuals speaking in this conference sound VERY convinced. There is no hidden agenda (that I can conceive) how could/would anyone benefit from such a highly debated (if not comical) subject matter? The majority of the worlds population would laugh this off as,


I am not laughing.

good find.


*40oz proof reads his post several times in an effort to not aggrivate the dutchmiester

[Strife]

Mind giving us a brief summary on what this is all about before any of us download it?

[VegasRonin]

Very informative video. I recommend it to everyone. Now where do I put this? It definitely doesn't belong in the Armageddon Thread. This subject is usually posted in The Paranormal forum but it also carries a political theme. Then there's the Science and Technology aspect; nor can we discount the heavy Conspiracy Nature of the topic. Hm okay, I got it. The overwhelming ideology of the participants in the video is FULL DISCLOSURE. Its going to Conspiracy Theories.

[VegasRonin]

Mind giving us a brief summary on what this is all about before any of us download it?

Its a National Press Meeting about a group that wants Congress to call for Full Disclosure about the Global UFO cover up. Before you laugh. Watch the video. There are some pretty powerful people pushing for this, and people who worked in areas that put them in contact with Alien Technology and beings. WATCH THE VIDEO!

Oh yeah, Rate this thread folkes.

[Strife]

Very Interesting video. Right at this moment I'm about 1 hour and 8 mins into it already. I noticed the date... what's up with that? Its been 3 years now, I've never heard or seen this on the media before.



The article below may shed some light on your question.
VR

[VegasRonin]

This is only for those that are genuinely interested in the subject

DEAFENING SILENCE: Media Response to the May 9th Event
and its Implications Regarding the Truth of Disclosure

by Jonathan Kolber

My intent is to establish that the media’s curiously limited coverage of the May 9, 2001 National Press Club briefing is highly significant.

At that event, nearly two dozen witnesses stepped forward and offered their testimony as to personal knowledge of ET’s and ET-related technologies. These witnesses claimed top secret clearances and military and civilian accomplishments of the highest order. Some brandished uncensored secret documents. The world’s major media were in attendance, yet few reported what they saw, most neglecting to even make skeptical mention.

How can this be? Major legal trials are decided based on weaker testimony than was provided that day. Prison sentences are meted out on less. The initial Watergate evidence was less, and the implications of this make Watergate insignificant by comparison. Yet the silence is deafening.

Three Possibilities:

If true, the witness testimony literally ushers in the basis for a whole new world of peace and prosperity for all. Validating the truth of Disclosure is probably the most pressing question of our times. The implications for the human future are so overwhelming that virtually everything else becomes secondary. However, the mass media have not performed validation. No investigative stories seeking to prove or disprove the witness testimony have appeared.

This cannot be due to lack of material; in the remainder of this article I will perform validation based upon material handed to the world’s media on May 9th.

In my view, only three possibilities exist: the witnesses were all lying, they were all delusional, or they were documenting the greatest cover-up in history. The reason is that if any one witness were neither lying nor delusional, then the truth of Disclosure is established. Let’s examine each possibility in turn.

If the witnesses were lying, a reasonable observer would ask, “where is the payoff?” What is the possible benefit to a liar pleading for the chance to testify before Congress under oath? The most likely payoff would be a trip to jail. These witnesses have not openly requested any financial compensation, speaking engagements or the like, and the Disclosure Project’s operation cannot support a payoff to dozens of persons. A cursory evaluation of its “products” coupled with a visit to its Charlottesville offices will establish this. Further, the parent organization, CSETI, is an IRS 501C3 nonprofit organization, and its lack of financial resources is a matter of public record. So the notion that the witnesses were doing so for material benefit is unsupported by facts at hand.

To my knowledge, large numbers of persons do not collude to lie without some compelling expected benefit. Other than money, the only such reason I can conceive in this case would be ideology. I wonder what radical extremist “ideology” could plausibly unite such a diverse group of senior corporate and military witnesses, nearly all of whom have previously displayed consistent loyalty to the United States in word and deed? I find none, and I therefore dismiss lying as implausible.

Further, the witnesses claimed impressive credentials. Among them were a Brigadier General, an Admiral, men who previously had their finger on the nuclear launch trigger, air traffic controllers, Vice Presidents of major American corporations—persons who either routinely have had our lives in their hands or made decisions affecting everyone. To my knowledge, in the half-year since May 9th, not a single claimed credential has been challenged in a public forum. Were they lying en masse, such an exposure would be a nice feather in the cap of some reporter. However, it hasn’t happened.

If all the witnesses were delusional, then a reasonable observer would presume that such “mass psychosis” did not suddenly manifest. That is, a number of witnesses would have shown psychotic tendencies in the past, in some cases probably including hospitalization. To my knowledge, this has not been alleged.

If they were documenting the greatest cover-up in history, and especially as briefing books that enumerated details of specific cases were handed out on May 9th to the dozens of reporters present, coverage should have dominated the media ever since, with a national outcry for hearings. This did not happen either.

Implications:

What do the above facts and inferences imply about the state of affairs in the media and the credibility of the witness testimony? In my view, they imply a lot.

If the witnesses were neither lying nor delusional, then the deafening media silence following May 9th implies an intentional process of failure to explore and reveal the truth. Said less politely, it implies censorship. (If I am right, this is itself an explosive statement, worthy of significant media attention—which it will not receive.) The only stories comparable in significance to May 9th would be World War III, a plague decimating millions, or the like. Yet between May 9th and September 11th, the news media was saturated with stories that are comparatively trivial.

Briefing documents were provided to reporters present. These books provided much of due diligence necessary for those reporters to explore the truth. However, neither Watergate-type coverage nor exposure of witness fraud has followed.

One of the witnesses reported how he became aware of 43 persons on the payrolls of major media organs while in fact working for the US government. Their job was to intercept ET-related stories and squelch, spin or ridicule. If we accept his testimony as factual, it provides a plausible explanation for the deafening silence following May 9th.

There is a bright spot in this situation. Some of the media did provide coverage, if only for a few days. This suggests that those who control media reporting do not have a monolithic power; they can be circumvented. The event did run on the internet and was seen by 250,000 viewers, despite “sophisticated electronic jamming” during the first hour (words attributed to the broadcast provider, not the Disclosure Project). Indeed, it continues to be fully documented at the Project’s web site.

Conclusions:

Since an expose of witness deceit or mass psychosis would itself have been a good, career-building story for some reporter, but no such story has appeared, I conclude that these witnesses are who they claim to be.

If these witnesses are who they claim to be, then they presented testimony they believe truthful. Yet no factual detail of any of that testimony has since been disputed in the media. Half a year is enough time to do the research. I believe the testimony is true as presented.

If the data is true as presented and the media are essentially ignoring what is indisputably the greatest story of our era, then the media are not performing the job they claim to do. Either they are being suppressed/censored, or they do not believe the public would find this subject interesting.

The tabloids continuously run stories on ET-related subjects, and polls show high public interest in the subject, so lack of interest value cannot be the explanation. I conclude that there is active suppression. This is corroborated by the witness claim of 43 intelligence operatives on major media payrolls.

Despite active suppression, enough coverage of the May 9th event happened in major publications and broadcast media to prove that the suppression can be thwarted. An event of significant enough impact and orchestration can break through the censorship. Millions of persons previously unaware of or dubious about ET-related technologies and their significance for ending our dependence on Arab oil have since become aware.

We live in a controlled society, one in which the control is secretive yet masquerades as openness. Yet, as proven May 9th, this control can be overcome by the concerted efforts of determined groups of persons. We must seek such opportunities again.

[40oz]

How can anyone refute that...

Whether you belive it or not, that was an outstanding argument.

[SladeLoD]

Thanks Vegas,I really did not know where to put this due to the fact that it does cover alot of ground.When i first saw this i wondered why this was not brought to anyones attention long before this.As noted this was produced in 2001 and was swept under the carpet by the media for various reasons,could fear of the real truth be the reason?Dr.Greer in my opinion has done what not many have been able to do in the past,and that is to put together a substantual program of disclosure on this topic collecting some of the most credable witnesses and evidence to date.Also he is taking a very gutsy posture in this subject matter by his approach to attempt to bring this before congress,i seriously doubt that that will happen though.(we all know why don't we!)

As i recall doing some research on this topic several years back,a website i found posted information reffering to statements they claimed made by John Glenn and Neil Armstrong i do believe on what they saw on the moon.Those objects sighted where alien ships and bases there,also was taken into consideration was that the aliens warned us away from the moon not wanting us there.My question is why was so much energy put into getting there,then suddenly drop any further exploration of the moon?There was the discovery of hydrogen III there(correct me if i am wrong)which would warrant further interest and investment in lunar research and development.The potential for an alternitive fuel sorce is there and is an economical and viable possibility.

Now we have the Sci-Fi channel possibly seeking legal action for full disclosure from the government on the topic of alien life forms visiting this planet.What a total shock to the world that would be if it where so.Lets all just wait and see what the outcome of the Sc-Fi channels actions bring.

One other topic i do want to touch base on here is Nikola Tesla and his scalar wave technology.If we look into his background and dig a little he did claim that he did have contact with alien beings.(again PLEASE! correct me if i am wrong)Please take into consideration the time period of his life and what he accomplished,very far in advanced technology than any other scientist during that timeframe in history.Now look at the power source for the reproduction of the spaceship in Dr.Greers presentation.It is powered by scalar wave technology.Very interesting i would say.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Slade

[Bigsky770]

. . .Though that doesn't matter. Congratulations are in order here; Quite possibly not just the find of the century, but more like the find of the last 1,000 years. One could not minimize the significance of this issue nor it's reach, as evidenced by this "stunning silence" courtesy of the "mass media".
. . .Though their are many that would be angered by the implication behind that last sentence, take joy in the fact that NOW we KNOW.

The bastards who thought they controlled the whole show aren't even aware of it, but they have already lost. . .

Joe (Bigsky770)

[Strife]

Vegas, your a big help, thanks! Here are the highlights of the article to answer my question.

One of the witnesses reported how he became aware of 43 persons on the payrolls of major media organs while in fact working for the US government. Their job was to intercept ET-related stories and squelch, spin or ridicule. If we accept his testimony as factual, it provides a plausible explanation for the deafening silence following May 9th.

If the data is true as presented and the media are essentially ignoring what is indisputably the greatest story of our era, then the media are not performing the job they claim to do. Either they are being suppressed/censored, or they do not believe the public would find this subject interesting.

We live in a controlled society, one in which the control is secretive yet masquerades as openness. Yet, as proven May 9th, this control can be overcome by the concerted efforts of determined groups of persons. We must seek such opportunities again.

Again, thanks. I still think theres alot more to this, with the aliens and all being here for thousands of years as mentioned from Dr.Greer.

I have another question regarding one of the witnesses. Mr. Daniel Sheehan talked about symbols seen on some of the photos of an ET aircraft he had the chance to look at. Any clue of what these symbols look like?

[Parallel_Grapefruit]

i watched it and i thought it was shocking! I find it hard to believe governments as well as religions have been covering this up for all these years, but it appears true. I think we need to push this information to all our friends even though they don't believe us. This information needs to GET OUT. . .

[Strife]

Perhaps these aliens are the Nephilim mentioned in the Old Testament. Thats another story that I'm into...

[DarkAce]

The Nephilim were the giant offsprings of the fallen angels and the women of earth, right? It's been said that perhaps the nephilim were neanderthals, if you take the story in literal sense.

I'm too interested in what symbols he found. I know hinduism talks about airplanes and weaponary unknown in their time when a lot of the sacred writtings were written.

Here's a sample:
"One time while King Citaketu was traveling in outer space on a brilliantly effulgent airplane given to him by Lord Vishnu, he saw Lord Siva..." "The arrows released by Lord Siva appeared like fiery beams emanating from the sun globe and covered the three residential airplanes, which could then no longer be seen."
Srimad Bhagavatam, Sixth Canto, Part 3

Interesting Links: http://www.tri-murti.com/ancientindia/viman1.html http://www.atributetohinduism.com/Vimanas.htm
http://www.livinginthelightms.com/shambhalaufos http://www.sawf.org/newedit/edit10162000/mythology.asp

[DarkAce]

Interesting about trying to ban weapons in space. I know we already have weapons in space and Bush's "Rods from God" program sounds alarming. For more information check out: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/03209/206344.stm

[VegasRonin]

Here's a sample:
"One time while King Citaketu was traveling in outer space on a brilliantly effulgent airplane given to him by Lord Vishnu, he saw Lord Siva..." "The arrows released by Lord Siva appeared like fiery beams emanating from the sun globe and covered the three residential airplanes, which could then no longer be seen."
Srimad Bhagavatam, Sixth Canto, Part 3

I've read books that are in line with that train of thought DarkAce. Some of the artwork from that era and culture are right out of the Sci-Fi network. To me its all about fitting the puzzle pieces together. A lot of our ancient cultures talk of these things ,and to just throw out all the stories as fiction isn't plausible in my eyes. There are too many common threads throughout the stories. I do differ from the video's ideology, that these beings are friendly. Ancient lore (As well as my own reasons) don't put up a lot of evidence that these guys are too nice.

[DarkAce]

Indeed we do have many of the ancient civilizations that had talked/written about what could be classified as "ETs". Like the video said, they have what was it? 57 different categorized alien species, much of them looking humanoid according to that guy.

Perhaps it's different races conflicting over what to do with us? Ever heard of the atlanteans vs the lemurians myth? I find it interesting that they say they've disarmed our nuclear capability time and time again. Are they saving us from ourselves, or rendering us defenseless from them? Heh. Time will tell I guess with this new "age" we're supposed to enter. If anything is rather certain, it's that the upcoming decade will see big changes one way or the other.

[stewey]

I am sure if a species advanced enough to travel through space wanted to take us over, wed be long gone by now. Anyways, as for truth of UFO's, check my post on paranormal from a few weeks ago. It has quite a bit of information, for both sides of the argument.

[SladeLoD]

Strife,I also would love to see what those symbols look like.Remeber those pictures from the Roswell crash?Bet ya any money that they are close in appearance to them.

[SladeLoD]

Well i'll be a son of a gun!Here is my friend Dr. Bruce Cornet!My how he does get around!LMAO!



http://www.unexplainable.net/artman/...icle_762.shtml

Oh Yeah,take a look at this page.Do some reading here,you will find some interesting things.Now why would NASA censor some of these photographs?hehe!

[prezhorusin04]

Maybe these stories, dealing in religion and culture for thousands and thousands of years, are part myth, and part hot air balloon!Of course it wont matter to some of you, but the Hindu Vedas and culture were established up by a warring class of Aryans in 1800BC. Perhaps this is part of why the Vimana space craft mythology carries over from things like the Egyptian winged sun DISK, and the Sumerian Anunnaki Wing bfore India was "civilized".
The Sumerians were said to be able to fly about as well.
And the "Atlanteans" were said to have flying craft called Vilaxis.

There MIGHT be lost, hidden, and differently evolved humanoid species from Earths past that play into all of this, but that doesn't make them from another planet. There is a far more logical and efficient method for viewing all of this. The Brotherhood have been planning ahead the whole time, in order to confuse our history and origins, and place barriers in our path to understanding.

He who controls the past controls the present and the future.

Surely if these people were so advanced, creating vast chariots and boating fleets, mastering irrigation and crops, domesticated animals, building elaborately huge temples and monuments to their complex and extravagant religious beliefs, surely some of them would have figured out how to raise a hot air balloon every now and again for special occasions.
It may sound "far out there' but my GOD, doesn't it make a little more sense then warring groups of alien tribes from other planets fighting for the ownership of Earth!!?

[MacRasta]

Talk is good, but I'd like to see the evidence, not the pieces of evidence in their hands. I'm still not convinced. Anyone has a link to those actual pieces of evidence?

There is one thing, though, that made me think...it's funny and disturbing at the same time :

It's been more than 10 years now that I've been saying that IF intelligent aliens exist and maybe visit us, that they must resemble humanoids. What does that one guy say?... (can't remember his name) : They have over 50 species that they know off all resembling humanoids... brrrrrrrr..

A little explanation on why I think they must resemble humanoids :

If we take a look around us, we see life everywhere on this planet. From the lowest depths of the ocean to the highest peaks on land, in every kind of shape,in every kind of environment. I mean millions, if not billions of different species. Only us homo sapiens are this smart and able to create and do all those things we're capable off, so if there's intelligent life out there, there's a very big chance they'll resemble us.

So, if this thing's for real, are they disabeling those weapons to protect us from ourselves, or to make us defenseless against them? (good point DA)

MacStradamus

[prezhorusin04]

As for the 50+ different species of "Aliens"..Anybody can think up different humanoid races. Look at movies and comic books.I'm surpised 10,000 species haven't been "reported" yet.

And Why arn't there any races that are 100 foot tall? Or as big as an atom..There are all types of different sized planets, why are all of these species between 4-8 foot tall?

Maybe they want it to be "far out" but not too far out that it loses all believability..

I think there should be a race of fat psychic slug leeches that drain our life and energy from us by placing their brainwahing entertainment, propaganda, and so called necessities, and BS in our faces 24-7!Let's not forget that one of the top 5 most reproted "Alien" races is the Blond Nordic! HEY, i didn't know blonds were from outer space!