How to find subversive movements?

[misterhamtastic]

Hi!

I'm interested in joining a subversive movement, preferably one which seeks to create disorder and chaos for it's own sake.

The problem is, they seem to be difficult to find and contact. I mean, if I were to have such an organization, I'd make sure my information was out there for everyone to easily find, with some intermediaries between the organization and the government.

You see, I'd make a great intermediary. I'm considered mentally ill, and have been known to seek out explanations from my government based on my own so-called delusions. Thus, I could act publicly and be ignored by the government as a "kook".

I'm posting this in politics, but maybe it's the wrong place, as all sides in the US consider all other sides subversive.

No, I'm looking for a group, possibly with very rich backers, who seek to bring down all government and society. A secret militia of some kind would exist, I'm sure.

I should be safe from legal issues as I don't want to personally do anything violent, merely support it.

If you have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

[BLOODLINES]

Have fun with that, you'll be getting NO help from me.

[misterhamtastic]

I'm just hoping for a hint. Like maybe a usenet or 4chan address, or some key words for google. Nothing like a straight URL. Funny thing, did you know that back in 02 after 9/11, the FBI wouldn't refer me to any militias, either? I mean, what's up with that?

[JenaS62]

Jake? Is that you?

[misterhamtastic]

No, and just to show I'm not hiding anything, my name is Arthur.

:)

[Raptor Witness]

Wasn't Bill Clinton's Mother supposed to be a member of "known subversive" organization? I would start with that one.

Originally Posted by JenaS62

Jake? Is that you?

That crossed my mind, also.

[GamerGal]

Either government agent looking for suspects or a troll so trolly that even I look like an imp compared with this troll.

[misterhamtastic]

No really!

I'm not a troll! I'm not a government agent!(Well, not if my delusion is false... If it isn't, then it's not willingly and they owe me some back-pay!)

I have simply embraced my world-view. There's a story I read about what a "madman" was. It was sort of oriental, so I'll try to re-tell it.

There were three men, a wise man, an evil man, and a mad man. (I imagine mad means insane here, but whatever...) There was a great earthquake and the men were concerned about the world. The wise man said,"We must dig a hole and release the pressure, or the world will be destroyed."

The evil man just laughed and went home. The wise man and the mad man got to work and opened up a hole. They worked all day and finally the wise man thought they had a large enough hole, and the occasional rumbling receded.

That night, there was an even stronger earthquake, and the wise man and the evil man got together to try to figure out what to do. The evil man, without a world, could do no more evil, and had decided to help.

They went to where they had dug the hole, and there stood the madman, dropping a stone onto where the hole had been.

"What happened?" asked the wise man, aghast.

"I filled in the hole, as wisdom is folly and evil is folly, but death comes for all."

With that, he attacked the wise man and evil man, keeping them from the hole until the world exploded.

-------

I love that story. I guess I'm anarchistic for the sake of all the beautiful destruction, what can I say?

Bringing down society for the sake of my own entertainment may not be nice, but I save my niceness for kittens and butterflies. Maybe if the world resets all the governments and society gets a slap in the face, humanity will show it's true colors and I will be impressed.

Until then, however...

Phone number? Address? Anything, guys, or have them contact me!

[The survivor]

Sadly I deal with these people on a regular daily basis...and i'll be damned if I would help anyone get into that line of BS.... not worth it and I do not condone their idiotic actions at all... no help from me.... sorry....

Talk to Jihad jane.... oops she got her butt hauled away.... no help there...

[Reef Badlaw]

You're already being prevented from finding the guys you're looking-for...

'Subversion' means humans vesting unrealistic self-importance into 'all things human'.

For the sake of discussion, let's call 'em The Quiet Friends Of The Quiet Men... reptile, enhancement, hissing, whisper, diligently observe, learn by experience, incantation, snake... 'Subversion' has no shape nor meaning to them.

[Anarch]

....
Glue can cause all the subversiveness you want if you know how to use it.

Can you use it in groups? Sure you can. Can you find those groups online? Not likely. I consider myself an army of one. The only place I go looking to meet up with others is real life. Too much can be tracked online. My advice? Don't look online. Because it means only one of two things. ONE your either a gov agent looking to tag some easy prey or TWO your new at these kinds of things and are the easy prey the gov agents have wet dreams about busting.

Real life. Look there. Not online. You'll only get busted. Lord knows know real group would dare risk their thing revealing themselves online. ;) Trust me on that one.

[misterhamtastic]

I understand, and thanks, Anarch.

I have to admit, though, that I was sort of hoping someone might contact me if I put myself out there, you know? Locally, there's the KKK, but I don't go in for hating for race, you know? I'm too broad to go with that.

Besides which, my means are limited. I don't get much chance to seek out these people. Ah well, just a dream, I suppose.

[Assassin X]

I stated it else where but I like misterhamtastic. Why can't I find more people like him in near me in real life. Agent of Chaos, Anarchists, Subversive. Sure they all vary a bit but there are people I really like.

[3rDShifT]

See what you did MrHam? AssassinX is drooling over you, more so than he should be.
And it's NOT because he is being "psychedelic" either.
For fucking shame.

[Assassin X]

How did you see my drooling?!?

(checks for hidden cams)

OMG! Where did that camera come from!

(flashes camera)

[3rDShifT]

It's Ok, you didn't drool.

[Cherisa]

Hahahahahahahahahah....this is funny...ROTFLMAO..
Seriously?
You can seriously expect anyone t fall for this BS, however, there is a man called magnetman. He's all for this sort of stuff! Got himself a place in the desert, unlimited resources all that jive.

[olddragon]

Originally Posted by Cherisa

Hahahahahahahahahah....this is funny...ROTFLMAO..
Seriously?
You can seriously expect anyone t fall for this BS, however, there is a man called magnetman. He's all for this sort of stuff! Got himself a place in the desert, unlimited resources all that jive.

Cherisa, please!


Maggot man , the champion of inbreeding.

[Cherisa]

Originally Posted by olddragon

Cherisa, please!
http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...s/thspank2.gif

Maggot man , the champion of inbreeding.

lol..od! remember when he was trying to "recruit" followers? Sounds like it might be up hampstercheeses alley..

[shortround]

Originally Posted by misterhamtastic

Hi!

I'm interested in joining a subversive movement, preferably one which seeks to create disorder and chaos for it's own sake.

The problem is, they seem to be difficult to find and contact. I mean, if I were to have such an organization, I'd make sure my information was out there for everyone to easily find, with some intermediaries between the organization and the government.

You see, I'd make a great intermediary. I'm considered mentally ill, and have been known to seek out explanations from my government based on my own so-called delusions. Thus, I could act publicly and be ignored by the government as a "kook".

I'm posting this in politics, but maybe it's the wrong place, as all sides in the US consider all other sides subversive.

No, I'm looking for a group, possibly with very rich backers, who seek to bring down all government and society. A secret militia of some kind would exist, I'm sure.



If you have any advice, it would be greatly appreciated, thanks!

How bout point blank... as that's about the extent of your net worth.

Ya gotta love his last few words... " I should be safe from legal issues as I don't want to personally do anything violent, merely support it.



Spoken like a true coward... stands back and let somebody else do it...

Eat shit dickweed.

[Traveler]

Mugabe got it right,

Why don't you just copy him? I'm sure the Chinese would love to sponsor your liberation movement too.

[misterhamtastic]

Hilarious.

Coward? Maybe. I'm past the point of particularly caring about being called one. I know what I'm good at, and I try to stick to what I'm good at. Action is a last resort for me, I tend to stick to planning and support.

One point however, is a fueler or commo person in the military a coward? I've been both, at different times, so if they are cowards, then so am I.

As for wanting followers... yeah, not so much. Follow me to where? I'd be one of the ones who'd die very early during an apocalypse. Once my access to medication was gone, I'd quickly lose my sh*t and do something stupid, whether it be suicide or simply embarrassingly moronic.

Nope, just looking for information through the interwebs. If you know somebody, though, put us in contact, would you? Consider it something you have done for entertainment value.

[misterhamtastic]

Oh, and one other thing, I don't like the Chinese more than anyone else. I want them gone, too. Why seek their help to bring down the US government? I might as well go the US government to bring down the Chinese. I still accomplish very little.

Besides which, the Chinese are more likely to simply occupy a US in anarchy. They'd call it peacekeeping or something, I'm sure, but the citizens would still be answering to Beijing.

Nah, that accomplishes nothing. I'm thinking of something on a global scale. Oh sure, we'll talk about how an apocalypse will help weed out those who shouldn't be in the gene pool anyway, but I'm just in it for the apocalypse.

Go see the movie 2012. I'm more of the same mind as Woody Harrelson's character. I just want to see it blow.

:)

[one14am]

Mr. Hamtastic, couldn't you just start a meme or a flash mob or something.

[Cherisa]

Originally Posted by misterhamtastic

Oh, and one other thing, I don't like the Chinese more than anyone else. I want them gone, too. Why seek their help to bring down the US government? I might as well go the US government to bring down the Chinese. I still accomplish very little.

Besides which, the Chinese are more likely to simply occupy a US in anarchy. They'd call it peacekeeping or something, I'm sure, but the citizens would still be answering to Beijing.

Nah, that accomplishes nothing. I'm thinking of something on a global scale. Oh sure, we'll talk about how an apocalypse will help weed out those who shouldn't be in the gene pool anyway, but I'm just in it for the apocalypse.

Go see the movie 2012. I'm more of the same mind as Woody Harrelson's character. I just want to see it blow.

:)

How immature! are you like 12 or 13? male, lives in your mom's basement, by any chance?
Yeah, if you were getting laid you'd love this place LOL

about a movie! That's FANTASY...