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Old Jun 11th, 2008, 7:40 PM   #1
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Do you accept body modification?

I was curious about everyone's views on body modification.

Do you accept it or shun upon it?

I for one am working on becoming heavily tattooed. I have many piercings aswell, also stretched ear lobes.

In some case body modification is used for attention. In other case its a form of tradition and culture. There are so many reason as to why people become modified.

In my case I really feel more like myself as a person with my body mods. I'm not out for any attention I'm just out for be myself. I wouldn't want myself any other way.

I'm also open to hearing opinions on other forms of body modification such as plastic surgery and bodybuilding. Aswell as modification stories.
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Old Jun 11th, 2008, 8:29 PM   #2
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I accept them Viv, but then again, they ain't practical where a I am.

I see lots of guys coming in with tat's and that is fine. Unless they "offend" another worker. Then I have to deal with discrimination and fights. Freedom of expression.

We are talking about guys with a career here, ones that can make $20 per hour, giving it up because of their "tats" that are their freedoms.

Or if they have too many piercings, they can run certain equiptment.

I have no problem with them on the equiptment, but if they get hurt, it is my fault. It is like a gal with too long, hair, should they wear it up just because it can get caught in the equiptment? No but do they have to yes, or cut it, yes.

Not fair, but a fact of life.

But on a side note, I went to a fast food chain and the gal taking my money had a nose ring, and she also had a cold. Guess that didn't go over too well for me, it was just gross, who would want someone with snot coming out of their nose to serve you food?
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Old Jun 11th, 2008, 8:49 PM   #3
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I understand how certain kinds of tattoos maybe offend someone but...

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Or if they have too many piercings, they can run certain equiptment.

I have no problem with them on the equiptment, but if they get hurt, it is my fault. It is like a gal with too long, hair, should they wear it up just because it can get caught in the equiptment? No but do they have to yes, or cut it, yes.
I don't understand how piercings could get in the way of running machinery, I'm not sure if thats what you were trying to say or not. I think someone would be just as qualified to run equipment if they had a...lets say a labret piercing. Though I'm not sure what sort of equipment they would be running, though I don't see how piercings could get in the way.

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But on a side note, I went to a fast food chain and the gal taking my money had a nose ring, and she also had a cold. Guess that didn't go over too well for me, it was just gross, who would want someone with snot coming out of their nose to serve you food?
Also I honestly don't see any difference with someone with a cold with a nose ring and someone with just a cold. I have worked in food service and piercings usually never come into contact with food unless you are touching the piercing then handling food. It wouldn't be much different as someone touching an open sore or cut then handling food. I think that touching a healed piercing would be alot cleaner...though I'm not trying to say it would be in anyway clean.
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I understand how certain kinds of tattoos maybe offend someone but...



I don't understand how piercings could get in the way of running machinery, I'm not sure if thats what you were trying to say or not. I think someone would be just as qualified to run equipment if they had a...lets say a labret piercing. Though I'm not sure what sort of equipment they would be running, though I don't see how piercings could get in the way.



Also I honestly don't see any difference with someone with a cold with a nose ring and someone with just a cold. I have worked in food service and piercings usually never come into contact with food unless you are touching the piercing then handling food. It wouldn't be much different as someone touching an open sore or cut then handling food. I think that touching a healed piercing would be alot cleaner...though I'm not trying to say it would be in anyway clean.

Yeah, I wasnt clear on all that. You talked about lobes - anything that can be out side of a hair net, is unacceptable. Hey I don't make the rules, I just have to enforce them.

We do work for a lot of aerospace and airlines, and there are limits to what can be on the floor and what can't. Not that they are in biohazard suits but close to it. Metal dectors, and also some equiptment that is very sensitive to other metals. As far as the piercing go. I mean.

The snot wasn't coming out of her nostrils, but her nose ring. Maybe things have changed, but someone serving me food with snot driping down the side of her nose kinda freaked me out. But then again that person didn't care either now did she.

As far as tat's as long as they are covered up, no problems. But do you really wanna be working the tarmack at 110 degrees (F) and covered up?

The point is we don't hire them because they don't stay. Not saying it isn't worth it, but people who have those kinds of peircings and tats, don't stay on the floor very long, so we have strict rules...
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I don't see what the big deal is with body modification. There are some things I don't care for if my future wife wanted to get them done. But other then that I don't really mind what people have done.

Tats are just awesome looking. Piercings are fine. But some of the..."intimate" ones I would not like just because I want to be romantic with 100% human not 99% human and 1% metal ring not to mention the pain of...you know...hurting certain things during love making because of piercings.

My only real complaint about body modification is alteration. Implants, nose jobs, botox....etc. Things of that nature. Obviously if you REALLY have a actual problem like your nose is really bad looking then you get it done....if you can truly afford it. But if your doing it for any other reason then most likely your probably pretty snobby, complicated, selfish or something along those lines...oh and have low self esteem.

Everyone has things they don't like but if you literally change them then your just trying to make yourself perfect and/or be like everyone else. That tells me your always going to spend your life worried about others opinion of you.

And yes that goes for boob jobs. I don't care if my wife has no chest or the chest the size of a fridge. I only care about whats inside. If shes wants to get a boob job thats her choice. But I won't be happy that she was happy with herself beacuse I was happy with her. She shouldn't care about what others think. Of course the other way to look at it is "Whatever makes her happy".
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Old Jun 11th, 2008, 10:16 PM   #6
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Yeah, I wasnt clear on all that. You talked about lobes - anything that can be out side of a hair net, is unacceptable. Hey I don't make the rules, I just have to enforce them.
I do understand that. A business has all right to ultimately choose who works for them.

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The snot wasn't coming out of her nostrils, but her nose ring. Maybe things have changed, but someone serving me food with snot driping down the side of her nose kinda freaked me out. But then again that person didn't care either now did she.
She must of had a larger size gauge sized hole then, right? I don't know how snot would be able to drip out of a standard notril ring size piercing. Sometimes I don't think you can help those kinda things, she just needed a tissue or something. lol

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The point is we don't hire them because they don't stay. Not saying it isn't worth it, but people who have those kinds of peircings and tats, don't stay on the floor very long, so we have strict rules...
Why don't they stay on the floor very long? Are they more prone to accidents or fights? Less reliable?
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Old Jun 11th, 2008, 11:58 PM   #7
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I think it's cool if its done so tastefully. Some people I think gets carried away and become more of an eyesore than artful. I especially like the little 1 inch chains the girls wear now out of their navels. That's so hot!
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Old Jun 12th, 2008, 8:16 AM   #8
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I'm a big fan of peircing and tattoos!! I am also going to be getting some serious tat work in the next few years and I would like to get more peircings. It's sorta part of my generation too. For me, it was an expression thing. I have never, ever had the same attitudes, beliefs or opinions as the average joe so in order to stand out even more I did things, peircings, tattoos, short spiked, colored hair.. to be more of an individual. Looking back it was silly, because everyone was doing it, just not in my town!

My husband is tattooed, has some peircings and owns a motorcycle, he's also a trucker. It does not really effect his career, however me on the other hand, I have to watch what I get because I was a professional in the veterinary field and sometimes people who are narrowminded feel that if I have a tattoo or a peircing I am less capable of doing my job. Now that I am a stay at home mom and work from home as well, I could do whatever I want, and probably will, but always in the back of my head is that thought "what if I want to go back to work? Would it affect me?"
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