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Old Oct 20th, 2003, 2:57 AM   #1
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Diana, Princess of Wales - new revelations - murdered?

Starting tomorrow in the Daily Mirror ( a UK tabloid) Paul Burrell, the former butler of Princess Diana, is going to be revealing what he knows about, amongst other things, Diana's tragic death in a car crash in Paris in August 1997.

Burrell is to claim apparently that he knew of private letters of Diana's in which she "predicted that she would be killed in a car crash," so that her husband would be free to marry again (ie marry Camilla Parker-Bowles.)

Also, according to the Mirror, royal coroner Michael Burgess is set to announce a date for an inquest into her death next week.

Sounds pretty sensational stuff, even if it does come from the "gutter press" and many people have had suspicions that all was not as it seems for some time ...
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Old Oct 20th, 2003, 1:10 PM   #2
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I've heard about those suspicions. Wouldn't it be a little difficult to kill someone in a car crash? I mean, aside from ramming them off a bridge.
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Old Oct 20th, 2003, 8:40 PM   #3
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I read a lot about those suspicions, including a theory by David Icke that the illuminati was behind the attack in his book "The biggest secret", I'll scan in the page where he mentions the plot for you soon.

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Wouldn't it be a little difficult to kill someone in a car crash? I mean, aside from ramming them off a bridge. [/quote]

There have been a lot of ministers, and VIP's assasinated by car crashes, its actually one of the easiest things to do. If someone hires professional assasins and they have good money to pay these assasins, you can be killed in the least unsuspecting ways!
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Old Oct 20th, 2003, 11:29 PM   #4
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The Establishment

What I heard was that she was pregnant which is why an autopsy was never done. That she was going to announce her engagement in England. She was taken out because you cannot have the head of the England with a muslim brother in law. It means that, although hugely improbable, there was a chance for a muslim king/queen of England through sucession. Dianna may have had an angelic/saintly relationship with the media and her public but she was a vindictive person whose anger at the royal family led her to try to upturn the establishment. Nice try Di. I regret her loss though pity her naivity. The operation was conducted by French Intelligence, MI6 and the Massoud.
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Old Oct 21st, 2003, 12:13 PM   #5
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Re: The Establishment

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>She was taken out because you cannot have the head of the England with a muslim brother in law. [/quote]

Heard this theory before Angel, although don't know if this is going to be mentioned by Paul Burrell when his revelations are published, or the theory you mentioned that she was pregnant (presumably with Jodi Al-Fayed's child.) Mohamed Al Fayed, (Jodi's father and owner of Harrod's and Fulham Football Club,) has been calling for a public inquiry ever since the tragedy as he himself believes that foul play was involved in some way. (Jodi was himself killed in the crash, along with Diana and the driver, who was said to have been drinking before the crash. Diana's bodyguard survived.)

Further detail is now emerging regarding Burrell's comments. From a BBC article today:

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The princess is reported to have written in a letter to Mr Burrell that she feared the brakes of her car were going to be tampered with. [/quote] news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3210874.stm

These revelations are being serialised in the Daily Mirror and are extracts from a book by Paul Burrell that is soon due to be published. The question is, of course, now being asked as to why Burrell waited so long to reveal all this, particularly as he has apparently been in possession of Diana's letter since before her death.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2003, 3:51 AM   #6
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Re: The Establishment

The report that the driver was drunk, was never really believed here in Holland. It seems so improbable that you have a professional chauffeur driving with too much alcohol...

It would not surprise me at all if she was the victim of a conspiracy... It's naive to think these things can not happen.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2003, 5:53 PM   #7
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Re: The Establishment

Jeez guys are you really saying that the British government would decide to kill arguably the most popular person in the country? Is it really so improbable that the car was driving too fast to escape paperazzi and crashed?
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Old Oct 23rd, 2003, 12:20 AM   #8
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Historical assinations

If you think it is improbable just look at the history books. Kings/Queens/Popes/Presidents. The improbablity here is that it was an accident. Guys, I wouldn't go trying to take on traditional power groups and think that they aren't going to try and stop me. Churches are very protective of their heirarchy.
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Old Oct 23rd, 2003, 4:59 AM   #9
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Re: Historical assinations

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>If you think it is improbable just look at the history books. [/quote] Searches through history books. Finds no examples of democratic murdering country's most popular person. Concludes the whole thing is ridiculous.
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Old Oct 24th, 2003, 7:52 PM   #10
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Re: Historical assinations

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The report that the driver was drunk, was never really believed here in Holland. It seems so improbable that you have a professional chauffeur driving with too much alcohol...[/quote]
Wasn't he drunk and on drugs? Combine that with speeding/stalking photographers, and I could see how his driving abilities got overwhelmed.
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Old Oct 25th, 2003, 10:11 AM   #11
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Re: Historical assinations

WOOOOOW Mike!!!! You are giving me a totally new picture of you.

Sue

>>>>Jeez guys are you really saying that the British government would decide to kill arguably the most popular person in the country? Is it really so improbable that the car was driving too fast to escape paperazzi and crashed?
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Old Oct 26th, 2003, 10:55 PM   #12
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History Books

Dictator,
I will point you to one empire in a long list. Rome. I guess most of the emperors there retired in their old age and there were no assasinations. I can't believe you think politics is an honourable, fair and innocent occupation. You must have the "Fairytale" history book cause the books I read are filled with lies, deception and atrocities for personal gains. Henry the eighth didn't kill his wives. They accidentally got their heads chopped off.
Thomas Moore was just misunderstood. The french revolution was a going away party for the burgoise. There was no political murders in human history, just really convenient accidents. I can accept that.;)
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Old Oct 27th, 2003, 11:21 AM   #13
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Re: History Books

oooohh, the breathtaking sarcasm.....
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Old Oct 27th, 2003, 4:02 PM   #14
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Diana's controversial letter

Paul Burrell claims to be in possession of many letters of Diana's but this is the one that has caused all the controversy, as published in the Daily Mirror on Oct 20th:

<a href="http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnews/page.cfm?objectid=13533662&method=full&siteid=5014 3" target="top">DIANA LETTER SENSATION: 'THEY WILL TRY TO KILL ME' </a>

From the Mirror article:

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The princess predicted: “This particular phase in my life is the most dangerous.” She said "XXXXXXXXXXX is planning ‘an accident’ in my car, brake failure and serious head injury in order to make the path clear for Charles to marry”.[/quote]

A photo of this part of the actual letter is also shown in the Mirror article.

Just watching a BBC TV special in which they are interviewing Paul Burrell. He is defending himself by claiming that he is "standing in the Princess' corner" and defending her memory. (His book is also getting incredible publicity of course and will probably sell millions. :o )
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Old Oct 27th, 2003, 4:17 PM   #15
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Re: History Books

Searches Angel TV's post. Finds no examples of democratic murdering country's most popular person. Concludes the whole thing is ridiculous.
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Old Oct 27th, 2003, 7:07 PM   #16
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Re: History Books

>Searches Angel TV's post. Finds no examples of democratic
>murdering country's most popular person. Concludes the
>whole thing is ridiculous.

err...did you look up the Chilean uprising funded by the CIA to depose a democratically elected President? (circa. 9/11/??). Would deposing the Ayatollah of Iran count? I forget if he was a popular Shah. I forget if Iraq in 1963 was deposed democracy for dictatorship.
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Old Oct 29th, 2003, 8:33 PM   #17
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Democratic Definition

Mike,
I guess it is a matter of definition. I don't think your trying hard enough to see the possibilities of this thread and brushing it off as ridiculous doesn't seem to be in the spirit of this forum. I know this is not your usual Modis Operandum from the archives I have read so why does this one turn you into a non-conspiracist. Is this one closer to home? Why should the US be the only ones to have the men in black and the rest of the worlds intelligence organizations come out with squeaky clean images. The fact that we sit here wondering what if tends to make me believe that they cover their tracks well. That's their job. It wouldn't be called secret service if they published their operations. Mike, why is this thread so ridiculous as compared to others?
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Old Oct 30th, 2003, 6:08 AM   #18
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Re: Democratic Definition

I can believe the British royalty NEEDED to get rid of Di. She was too much of an embarassment to the royal family. I don't think the government was responsible, but I could imagine the head of state having some tricks up her sleeve...
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Old Oct 30th, 2003, 10:32 AM   #19
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Re: Democratic Definition

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Mike, why is this thread so ridiculous as compared to others? [/quote] Don't worry, it's less ridiculous than the Illuminati ones. I think the 9/11 or moon landing hoaxes are ridiculous, but at least there's some quite interesting questions about them. The given explanations appear on the first look to have some flaws with them, like the waving flag on the moon. Trust me, I'm not big on any conspiracy theories.

As for Diana, I haven't seen any good arguments as to why her car might not have been going to fast and crashed. It happens 1000s of times ever day, even when your not being chased by a swarm of paparazzi.

Ok maybe some people in the Royal Family didn't like her, this isn't a great surprise. But do you think they simply kill everyone they don't like? You don't see lots of republicans ending up in car crashes.
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Old Oct 30th, 2003, 11:27 AM   #20
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Re: Democratic Definition

> You don't see lots of republicans ending up in car crashes.

no, politicians die in plane crashes.
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Old Oct 30th, 2003, 11:33 AM   #21
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Re: Democratic Definition

Well they've tried a forest fire with the new Californian governor, but they missed him....
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Old Oct 30th, 2003, 9:15 PM   #22
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Heirarchy

To protect their interest, people of power have no restrictions. We are not talking about the local social club commitee. Di should have known better. Her mistake was getting into the whole thing at an age where she did not understand her duty. Do I think they are capable of eliminating people who stand in their way. Of course. I don't condone it but I also don't think one person can't think they are bigger than whole picture. Di would not have thought twice about bringing down the royal family. They got to her first. Not "the Royals" but people who have their best interest at heart. Plane crashes, car crashes, falling overboard. Heart attacks are easier but autopsies are official records. In the old days it was poisons and back stabbings.
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Old Oct 31st, 2003, 5:51 AM   #23
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N.A.S.A.ssassinations

peculiar that assassination comes from the word meaning hasheesh eaters and that it originates from the Islamic assassins from about 1100a.d. into present day and that they were assaciated with the Knights Templars in doing multiple buisness dealings to ensure trade routes into their favour..The Templars were later disbanded and fell into the less suspicious Freemasons Guild..The Templars are noted for having worshipped the goat headed gods Baphomet and Mendez..

Is this the same story as today with the 33degree masonic George Bush family and the Alkiada Assassins of Bin Laden..?

other notable murders??
Monroe
Kennedy
Bobby Kennedy
Martin Luther King jr
Malcolm X
Jimi Hendrix
JAnis Joplin
Jim Morrison
Bruce lee
Brandon lee
Kurt Cobain
Princess Di
jfk jr.
as well as Leaders and rulers of other countries
along with dozens and dozens of other notable figures and those involved with the Kennedy investigation and the Clinton Whitewater scandal..

Remember Senator Paul Wellstone and his plane crash..?
Or how about Aliyha in her plane crash after signing to be the the next MATRIX movie.?--What about the dozens of bio-engineers who were working on vaccines to viruses like sars and westnile..Many of them have dissapeared or died under "mysterious" circumstance over the last few years..

And hey, what about ELVIS..?

What if even two or three of these were confirmed as 100% hits made by our own government?

Would that change your viewpoints on how you saw the world and what you thought of our governnent?

would you see things a little differently if it were 100% proven that the u.s. government had killed even just three of these many, many people?
What if they only killed Kennedy, jimi hendrix and a few people involved with the Kennedy coverup??

what if they didnt even kill Kennedy and his mistress and little brother at all folks?

What if they just killed Martin Luthor king jr,Janis Joplin & Jim Morrison? Would you think differently about our government and every aspect of reality they were trying to feed to you thru the television, newspaper and magazines..?

What if it was only Elvis they killed?? i mean damn man, they killed Elvis!

How much blood of the idols and admired to they need before they feel safe and comfortable.?

What if aliens were lies..Ufos were the toys of men too wealthy to ever spend in 10 lifetimes.

what if our leaders were satanist and sacrificers of children and drinkers of blood.?What if these secret societies weren't as helpful, charitable and innocent as they wanted to seem..Look at the catholic church..you think child molestation is new there..? no, no, its been going on with the sorcerer and apprentice in cultures for thousands and thousands of years..Sacrifice of virgins and orgy worship..Egypt, Rome, Arabic nations today, even circumcision is the practice of sexual and arousal worship, not cleanliness and holyness..it is to represent the third eye and the missing capstone on the pyramids.

(33 degree freemasons/illuminati luciferians?)

over 2000 children are reported missing in the united states every day! while some of them surely show back up safe and sound there are atleast 500-1000 who are not just lost and are runaways who dissapear every day..

what if only say 10 of those 500 every day were taken by members of satanic cults who were performing sacrifices..it's sick but surely happening..What if some of these 10 daily abductions were being done by satanist who were in an ELITE status in society.?

Buisness and land owners;bankers and public speakers..
Industrialists
Heads of state//

would you feel a little differently then.?:o
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Old Oct 31st, 2003, 8:17 AM   #24
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Re: N.A.S.A.ssassinations

<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>The Templars are noted for having worshipped the goat headed gods Baphomet and Mendez..[/quote]

am i mal, I really dont understand what your talking about. Any of it. If you had slowed down, I still couldn't comprehend.
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Old Oct 31st, 2003, 8:42 AM   #25
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<blockquote><strong><em>Quote:</em></strong><hr>Wasn't he drunk and on drugs? Combine that with speeding/stalking photographers, and I could see how his driving abilities got overwhelmed[/quote].

I never believed that the driver was drunk. Not unless the security guards were paid to shut up and had spiked his drinks. Can you imagine allowing a drunk guy to drive Diana home? Also, hasn't Tony Blair successfully stopped a new inquiry into the accident?.
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