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**Cartesiantheater** · Feb 7th, 2010, 8:46 PM

w00t!

Congrats Saints!

MAN what a gutsy team. That onside kick to start the second half, for one. Man, I am impressed. Those guys had the heart of a champion.

*JenaS62* · Feb 7th, 2010, 9:02 PM

What an awesome game that was. That onside kick was so ballsy. Congrats Saints!

*Demonskates* · Feb 7th, 2010, 9:06 PM

hell of a game...eat that peyton manning!!!!

*pico* · Feb 7th, 2010, 9:20 PM

Who Dat Dawlin'? Dats Da Saints! Man I wish I was a fly on the wall at Pat O'Brians on Bourbon Street right now! What a great effort. To hold the Colts to only 7 points for 3 quarters really showed the world the Saints Defense is underrated.

*GamerGal* · Feb 8th, 2010, 12:23 AM

Ok all you bandwagon riders, off the wagon. Season is over. Besides the NFL already admitted that the Saintsa only won because of bad ref calls and fined half the Saints for shit they did during the NFC game.

But then again Colts lost. Ha, I bet the Patriots could have... Oh shit we lost to both teams. But we didn't lose against Minn... We didn't play them? Well, we could have if the right teams played in the Super Bowl!

*Assassin X* · Feb 8th, 2010, 1:09 AM

I have no idea whos better between the two but I wanted the Saints to win.

*Reef Badlaw* · Feb 8th, 2010, 4:05 AM

Congrats to the Saints, and Saint-fans. A cool, methodical win. The onside-kick recovery was classic, as was the running-play on 4th-down to close-out opening-half, insuring that the Colts had no time to increase their lead before The Who kicked-ass.

Great game. The replay-reversal of the 2-point conversion is probably my most memorable in-game shot.

*Demonskates* · Feb 8th, 2010, 7:14 AM

My only problem with the Who show....was the goddamn medley...i hate those. Play the whole f**king tune.

*pico* · Feb 8th, 2010, 8:45 AM

GG.... what are you talkiing about with the Saints players being fined for play against the Vikings? The Vikings lost that game themselves, as they screwed up and should have simply kicked the game winning field goal... so quit blaming the Saints.

The Colts looked to be hot, but the Saints defence showed up and played a hell of a game... and really there were no controversial calls in this Superbowl game that wuld have made a huge difference. The 2 point conversion was a legit two points earned, and regardless, the only thing that might have done would have been to take the steam out of the New Orleans Offense, which simply put at that stage would not have mattered... it was Saints defence the rest of the game which one it.

*MaximumPain* · Feb 8th, 2010, 9:11 AM

"Fortune favors the bold"

Congrats to the Saints and their fans from a Vikings fan.

**Cartesiantheater** · Feb 8th, 2010, 9:46 AM

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Ok all you bandwagon riders, off the wagon. Season is over.

They've been my second favorite team since 2006 with the arrival of USC RB Reggie Bush and Brees (Was a California native, and so I support my California teams and the players from them). If that's a bandwagon, so be it.

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Besides the NFL already admitted that the Saintsa only won because of bad ref calls

B.S. Prove it. Provide a link from the NFL that claims that Saints won because of bad calls.

I already responded to your charges in the other thread. I'll post it again:

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Ball bounced off of the ground. Not a catch

If you're referring to the catch that got the Saints nearer for the final field goal, look again: the receiver's hand was underneath the ball the whole time = catch.

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Pass interference on a player who tripped and fell with out a defender touching him.

If not pass interference, definitely holding, since the linebacker had his hand on the receiver at least UNTIL the ball was in the air, and it certainly appears that the defender at least touched the receiver's right arm. Not to mention.

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Player leaping in the air, helmet knocking the ball back and NOT crossing the line.

His initial leap had the ball crossing the line and was ruled down by stopping of forward progress, and since he never actually lost possession PRIOR to being ruled down by stoppage of forward progress, there simply was not enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field. Not to mention, just because he was holding the ball with this crotch and hands at one point (AFTER forward progress was stopped) does not mean that he lost possession.

Regardless:

The Vikings had TWO golden opportunities late in the game: Favre pick and when Brees' pass landed in the breadbasket of a Viking defender in OT after the receiver bobbled it into the air.

They had plenty of chances, and blew them all, and not only that, they turned it over 5 times. No excuses.

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and fined half the Saints for shit they did during the NFC game.

No they didn't. If "half the Saints" were fined, that would mean the NFL dolled out at least 26 fines.

As it turns out, exactly FOUR fines were dolled out, and one of them was only a fine because Tom Brady is a fucking pussy and the NFL is on his nuts (Ray Lewis told him to take off the skirt, remember? He needs to, and the NFL needs to quit babying quarterbacks so much. Steve Young, Troy Aikman, Joe Montana, Dan Marino, John Elway, etc, didn't get that luxury.) - aka the "Tom Brady Rule," which suddenly makes it illegal to hit a QB the way you would any one else.

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But then again Colts lost. Ha, I bet the Patriots could have... Oh shit we lost to both teams. But we didn't lose against Minn... We didn't play them? Well, we could have if the right teams played in the Super Bowl!

The Patriots got RAPED by the Saints. The Patriots lost to the Ravens (and really would have lost TWICE if Tom Brady wasn't being babied by the officials). They were NOT a great team this year, period.

The Vikings lost because Favre chocked, and the Saints defense foreced 5 turnovers- which WASN'T simply luck, since they have been doing it ALL YEAR, and did it again in the Super Bowl when it mattered most.

And the Colts lost because the Saints are better than them. (for the record, I believe the Vikings were definitely better than the Colts as well.)

Remember the fucking 49ERS nearly beat the Colts? 18-14? The Colts are and have been over rated for two years. Seven times the Colts had to come back in the forth quarter to win. That means in seven games they were outplayed for three quarters! Great teams do not have to come back seven times.

Quarterbacks: Brees beat Manning in almost every category, and has been statistically dominating the league since he arrived in New Orleans.

Running backs: Saints far and away better (Colts last in league rushing)

Receivers: Saints have more guys who can dominate

TEs: Jeremy Shockey is every bit as good as Dallas Clark

O-Line: Draw

D-Line: Colts

Linebackers: Draw

DBs: Draw

The only place where the Colts are clearly better is the defensive line. In every other position the Saints either arguably have the edge or are at least as good.

*bluenose_ian* · Feb 8th, 2010, 4:57 PM

Go Saints, yes I stayed up and watched it, thought they was gonna lose when they was behind in 1st quarter.

Awesome touchdown when he went on that big run, plenty of yards covered.

The Who sounded awful, so did the women who sang the national anthem but the game was a good one.

*pico* · Feb 8th, 2010, 5:22 PM

The National Anthem was better sung than "America the Beautiful"... IMO. Guthrie would be rolling in his grave had he heard that rendition. Anyway, the national anthem would be one hard song to sing, as there was no music. Just having your voice be the words and the tune seem tough.

The Who did suck, JMO.

**Cartesiantheater** · Feb 8th, 2010, 6:11 PM

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Go Saints, yes I stayed up and watched it, thought they was gonna lose when they was behind in 1st quarter.[...]

Since after that first quarter the Saints outscored the Colts 31-7, it seems reasonable that a big part of their slow start was simply nerves.

And yeah, The Who was awful. The NFL commissioner, etc, need to get off this retarded kick of using hasbeens for the half time show. What is this, four years in a row with artists who were good 20, 30, 40 years ago?

*JenaS62* · Feb 9th, 2010, 8:15 AM

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Since after that first quarter the Saints outscored the Colts 31-7, it seems reasonable that a big part of their slow start was simply nerves.

And yeah, The Who was awful. The NFL commissioner, etc, need to get off this retarded kick of using hasbeens for the half time show. What is this, four years in a row with artists who were good 20, 30, 40 years ago?

Well it really depends on who the artist is. Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen and Aerosmith were all great during their half time shows. The Who sounded like they had throat cancer. If it weren't for the light show, I would have left the room.

*GamerGal* · Feb 9th, 2010, 8:19 AM

What's wrong with rock bands playing? It's not like they can have rappers on there. You can't say fuck, shit, or nigger on broadcast television so no rapper can be used. What, get some emo band on for halftime? No. Football fans like rock and roll, so it makes sense having rock and roll bands. Or should we get Miley Cyrus on next year instead of the Eagles?

**Cartesiantheater** · Feb 9th, 2010, 9:29 AM

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Well it really depends on who the artist is. Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen and Aerosmith were all great during their half time shows. The Who sounded like they had throat cancer. If it weren't for the light show, I would have left the room.

I liked the Stones, Springsteen's performance was good. When did Aerosmith play? They are never out of style anyway (IMHO).

But still, the Tom Petty show was disappointing, for example. They need to bridge the gap a little bit. Maybe not go back before the mid 80s next time, or maybe not clear to the goddamn 60s?

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What's wrong with rock bands playing?

What's wrong with having rock bands with who aren't members of AARP?

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It's not like they can have rappers on there. You can't say fuck, shit, or nigger on broadcast television so no rapper can be used.

(1) The statement is idiotic because there are plenty of rap artists who don't use those words (Will Smith, for example, has many songs that are more or less clean).

(2) The word "nigger" is almost NEVER used in rap. The word NIGGA is used, and believe it or not it has a different meaning than the former (this would be obvious to anyone who wasn't inexcusably ignorant to cultures other than their own).

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What, get some emo band on for halftime? No.

Ah, now I can agree with you.

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Football fans like rock and roll, so it makes sense having rock and roll bands. Or should we get Miley Cyrus on next year instead of the Eagles?

Why not something with a little more edge than retired, 60s-picket-fence rock?

Why not something from the 90s?

Why not an indie band once in a while? (say, the Pixies)

Why not some of the great 70s/80s bands, like Queen? (oh, wait, their original singer was gay... my bad... I guess that means their music sucks). I'd love to hear Bohemian Rhapsody with a video screen/audio of Freddie Mercury singing while the modern band plays and sings back up vocals at halftime.

Roger S. Goodell is a fucking cancer to the NFL.

*GamerGal* · Feb 9th, 2010, 9:57 AM

Queen would be awesome! If a little cliche playing We Will Rock You and We Are the Champions.

Why not Black Sabbath or ACDC? I could see it now! Singing Big Balls, the crowd singing with them!

Also, Will Smith hasn't done a song in years. Second he didn't do rap he did hip hop.

Hmm, maybe get some jazz next year in honor of the New Orlean Saints?

*MaximumPain* · Feb 9th, 2010, 11:37 AM

+ YouTube Video

I love the horns in the background in this song.

*pico* · Feb 9th, 2010, 2:00 PM

Ummmm... GG, Freddy Mercury is dead, so Queen would likely suck. What they need is some group from the 80's hair metal genre... but that will likely not happen.

*bluenose_ian* · Feb 9th, 2010, 3:14 PM

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Ummmm... GG, Freddy Mercury is dead, so Queen would likely suck. What they need is some group from the 80's hair metal genre... but that will likely not happen.

Queen still has 3 other members and music still sounds good, Brian May with his kick ass guitar, although I would agree, a stand in singer like they have had is not a patch on Freddie.

AC/DC mmm love the band but dont think Highway to Hell would be right for the SuperBowl.

Why not your classic American Rock Artist like Bon Jovi, Aerosmth.
kinda clean images, well Jovi is.

*GamerGal* · Feb 10th, 2010, 2:23 AM

Those bands already played.

Also, NFL Admits only reason Saints won was because of refs bad calls.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...-on-favre.html

**Cartesiantheater** · Feb 10th, 2010, 10:58 AM

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Those bands already played.

Also, NFL Admits only reason Saints won was because of refs bad calls.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com...-on-favre.html

Uh, no. How in the hell does anyone know what would have happened the rest of the game had that interception been called back?

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ESPN.com reports: The NFL is acknowledging that a third-quarter hit on Vikings quarterback Brett Favre should have been called a penalty, which would have nullified a New Orleans Saints interception on the key play in the NFC championship game.

"It's the type of hit that we don't want," NFL vice president of officiating Mike Pereira said, "... because clearly we're trying to protect the knees and we need to focus on this to make sure we don't miss [them]."

The score was tied at 21 at the time, and the Vikings would have kept the ball and been inside the Saints' 20-yard line had the penalty on the Saints' Bobby McCray been called.

The Vikings lost because Favre threw a pick in the FORTH QUARTER while just outside of FG range.

The Vikings lost because they turned it over 5 times.

The Vikings lost because they couldn't stop the Saints in overtime (and no, none of those OT calls were wrong).

Second, that rule is idiotic, and only exists because the NFL wants to baby Tom Brady. Take off the skirt.

But all that being said, the Vikings would have beaten the Colts. However, coulda, woulda, shoulda doesn't mean jack. The New Orleans Saints are the World Champions, and the Vikings are the NFC runners up. Period.

*GamerGal* · Feb 10th, 2010, 4:16 PM

Sorry Cart, NFL DISAGREES with you. Not me, not every football fan, the NFL says you are wrong.

**Cartesiantheater** · Feb 10th, 2010, 6:32 PM

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Sorry Cart, NFL DISAGREES with you. Not me, not every football fan, the NFL says you are wrong.

Hmmm... what does GG say and what does the NFL say?

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NFL Admits only reason Saints won was because of refs bad calls.

What does the NFL say? The NFL says that on one play in the third quarter when the game was tied Brett Favre was illegally hit in the knees on a play he threw a pick.

So, what we have is, the NFL actually literally said that one pick in the third quarter should have been called back. Oddly, no mention about who would have or wouldn't have won, or what the cause of one team's victory was, etc.

Now, you'll have to explain to me logically how saying "one bad call in the third quarter while the game was tied" is the same as saying," the only reason the Saints won was because of bad calls."

Here is something that might help you:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic