BREAKING NEWS: Over 12,000 US Dead, 25,000 Seriously Wounded In Iraq (Secret DoD)

[Solve et Coagula]

BREAKING NEWS: Over 12,000 US Dead, 25,000 Seriously Wounded In Iraq (Secret DoD)

Mr. President, why don’t you pull out…like your father should have?
Brian Harring

Note: There is excellent reason to believe that the Department of Defense is deliberately not reporting a significant number of the dead in Iraq. We have received copies of manifests from the MATS that show far more bodies shipped into Dover AFP than are reported officially.

The actual death toll is in excess of 10,000. (See the official records at the end of this piece.) Given the officially acknowledged number of over 15,000 seriously wounded (and a published total of 25,000 wounded overall,), this elevated death toll is far more realistic than the current 2,000+ now being officially published.

When our research is complete, and watertight, we will publish the results along with the sources In addition to the evident falsification of the death rolls, at least 5,500 American military personnel have deserted, most in Ireland but more have escaped to Canada and other European countries, none of whom are inclined to cooperate with vengeful American authorities.

(See TBR News of 18 February for full coverage on the mass desertions) This means that of the 158,000 U.S. military shipped to Iraq, 26,000 deserted, were killed or seriously wounded. The DoD lists currently being very quietly circulated indicate over 12,000 dead, over 25,000 seriously wounded and a large number of suicides, forced hospitalization for ongoing drug usage and sales, murder of Iraqi civilians and fellow soldiers, rapes, courts martial and so on -

The government gets away with these huge lies because they claim, falsely, that only soldiers actually killed on the ground in Iraq are reported. The dying and critically wounded are listed as en route to military hospitals outside of the country and not reported on the daily postings. Anyone who dies just as the transport takes off from the Baghdad airport is not listed and neither are those who die in the US military hospitals.

Their families are certainly notified that their son, husband, brother or lover was dead and the bodies, or what is left of them (refrigeration is very bad in Iraq what with constant power outages) are shipped home, to Dover AFB. This, we note, was the overall policy until very recently. Since it became well known that many had died at Landstuhl, in Germany, the DoD began to list a very few soldiers who had died at other non-theater locations. These numbers are only for show and are pathetically small in relationship to the actual figures.

You ought to realize that President Bush personally ordered that no pictures be taken of the coffined and flag-draped dead under any circumstances. He claims that this is to comfort the bereaved relatives but is designed to keep the huge number of arriving bodies secret. Any civilian, or military personnel, taking pictures will be jailed at once and prosecuted. Bush has never attended any kind of a memorial service for his dead soldiers and never will. He is terrified some parent might curse him in front of the press or, worse, attack him. As Bush is a terrible physical coward and in a constant state of denial, this is not a surprise.

Source:
http://www.iraq-war.ru/article/98839

Harring Report: The National Young Men’s Meat Grinder:
http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a2463.htm

[Demonskates]

Damn,if this is true its pretty sickening.

[Justice]

Yes yet more lies from that lieing ba$tard who attacked his own people so he could fill his pockets and untill the stupid pucking americans wake up and sort Bush out he will continue to lie and take lives all over the place

[shawnee]

Evidently your info is from a Russian newspaper accounting and forum site? Don't know how much credibility I'd give THAT...

[Sammy56]

Yeah, I'm with shawnee, it doesn't sound very credible. Besides, if this did happen, there is no way the United States would be able to cover-up that many deaths. Someone would find out and leak it to the media and it would have been all-over the news right now.

[Raptor Witness]

Originally Posted by Sammy56

Yeah, I'm with shawnee, it doesn't sound very credible. Besides, if this did happen, there is no way the United States would be able to cover-up that many deaths. Someone would find out and leak it to the media and it would have been all-over the news right now.

You need a few gray hairs before you go touting yourself as a sage, Sammy. These liars will stop at nothing. Perhaps this is really why the news media hasn't been allowed to photographs any of the flag draped coffins?

The truth is, the False Prophet(electronic media) can say anything they want, and the people will swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

[jinxz]

Why is it that this rumor just won't die? It's been floating around forever now, it seems. This is from 2005. The whole thing started by some nincompoop's misunderstanding what the military use of "casualty" is. In military jargon, a casualty is any soldier who is no longer capable of fighting. Of course this includes the dead ones, but also the wounded in battle, the psychologically discharged, and the medically discharged. At the time this rumor first surfaced, the number of total US casualties, ie dead+wounded+sick+mentally unfit, was indeed over 10,000. And I'm sure it's much higher now. But the number of dead as of today is still somewhere around 2650. And the names of every last soldier who's been killed is on any number of websites that list these statistics. Most of them are independent, and don't just use DoD releases to compile their information. And do you really think that if 8,000 or more names were missing from all of these independent lists out there, that the families of the slain soldiers wouldn't be raising all sorts of hell? And do you really believe that the Bush administration is good enough to keep all this secret? Even when they've been caught in so many other misdirections and outright lies? Just drop this one. It's completely false.

[Jack Of Shadows]

The truth is, the False Prophet(electronic media) can say anything they want, and the people will swallow it hook, line, an sinker.[/QUOTE]


Um your article was also electronic media so arent you also following the """FALSE PROPHET"""

[Raptor Witness]

Oh I've been worhipping the idolatrous idiot box for years Shadow, I admit it. I plan to some more too. You must examine your enemy closely, if you are to defeat it.

[Sammy56]

Originally Posted by Raptor Witness

You need a few gray hairs before you go touting yourself as a sage, Sammy.

Just because I'm young doesn't mean I cannot spot a source that isn't credible. Nor am I being a "sage". I'm just using logic. As jinxz said, this story has been floating around the internet since 2005, and yet, we've heard nothing about it in the mainstream media. I'm sorry, but there is no way our government could completely cover-up 12,000 deaths. It's almost logistically impossible. Someone would figure out the truth, and you don't have to be "old and wise" to come to that conclusion.

[Cornish Maid]

I'm sorry but I always regard anything that Solve posts with suspicion as it is usually biased.

[D34DGuY]

I agree with the debate about the information coming from a credible source, but I also find it very likely that our government is withholding information about that. Why not, they lie about everything that they can.

[loganosborne]

Originally Posted by Cornish Maid

I'm sorry but I always regard anything that Solve posts with suspicion as it is usually biased.

So do I. Although I would like to see solve post an opnion for once instead of bombarding the boards with new threads with articles. By the way its a rubbish source.

[Freaked out]

I like the variety of posts Solve provides, he's given us some gems. Without Solve why I would never have seen Mr. Galloway letting Sky News have it.

I read something about this before. I don't find it to be too much of a stretch to say that hey, if they didn't die "in combat" rather on route to hospital or at hospital that they don't count it on their official lists. Reasonable approach by those faced already with thin public support for the war. Seems quite plausible to me. (the actual numbers ~ difficult to say however)

As far as decrying the "Russian" source, I scour the news ALOT - my passion. I have to say that you will find questionable articles from nearly every outlet - Washington Post, Reuters, UK Independent - so, I don't automatically dismiss a story based on it's source in many cases, I will dismiss it based on the other facts I can glean from the internet. You always have to be careful I find, regardless of the source.

[2Hybrids]

Originally Posted by jinxz

Why is it that this rumor just won't die? It's been floating around forever now, it seems. This is from 2005. The whole thing started by some nincompoop's misunderstanding what the military use of "casualty" is.

Thank you Jinx - you have given me hope that not everyone one this board is an idiot who believes everything they read.

It works both ways people! You refuse to believe any mainstream news but will give this latest one your undivided attention.

Anything Solve posts is pure garbage and should be posted in the conspiracy nut thread.

That WAS NOT breaking news.

[Freaked out]

Oh c'mon man. I like Solve's posts. You know, I've probably read over 20 books on this, a billion news reports and missed work just to watch the UN meetings. Don't lump me into the conspiracy theorist camp.

I LIVE FOR POLITICS, I BREATHE IT.

The greater evil is the crap hand fed to the masses (so carefully selected and edited) from FOX and CNN.

SOLVE YOU KEEP POSTING BUDDY!!!!