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Old Nov 11th, 2008, 4:29 PM   #1
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Ancient 4,300-year-old pyramid discovered in Egypt

Should be very interesting to see what they find as well as how it relates to other
pyramid's.
Not much news on it yet.. I would think this would be big news.. but then again i love history.

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A 4,300-year-old pyramid has been discovered at the Saqqara necropolis outside Cairo, Egypt's culture minister said on Tuesday.

Faruq Hosni made the announcement at a press conference in Saqqara, an ancient burial ground which dates back to 2,700 BC and is dominated by the massive bulk of King Zoser's step pyramid, the first ever built.

Husni said the pyramid, five metres (16 foot) tall, is believed to have been 15 metres tall when it was first built for Queen Sesheshet, the mother of King Teti who founded the 6th Dynasty of Egypt's Old Kingdom.

The pyramid's base was discovered "20 metres below the sands and a doorway for the burial place was also discovered," Hosni said, adding that it seems thieves had looted the pyramid.
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Old Nov 11th, 2008, 6:35 PM   #2
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4300 years ago would fit nicely with the alien intervention theory and that aliens built the pryamids.
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Old Nov 16th, 2008, 10:03 PM   #3
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I think aliens definitely built the pyramids. I think that the Egyptians are the higher life form between us and the other planets


The pyramid was found 12 miles south of Giza
All that remains of the pyramid is a 16-foot-tall structure that had been buried under 65 feet of sand.
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Old Nov 17th, 2008, 12:10 AM   #4
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4300 years ago huh? isn't 43 the meaning of life?
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Old Aug 9th, 2009, 2:02 PM   #5
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4300 years ago would fit nicely with the alien intervention theory and that aliens built the pryamids.
Huh? THAT isn't even the beginning of the Egyptian civilization as we know it.
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Old Aug 9th, 2009, 6:38 PM   #6
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4300 years ago would fit nicely with the alien intervention theory and that aliens built the pryamids.
I guess I don't under stand why you think that? Why does 4300 years old mean that aliens did it? Do you think that humans can build pyramids and need alien hover cars and other tech in order to do it? Its been shown how huge blocks could be maneuvered by human and animal power using simple leverage techniques. The idea that aliens built the pyramids is ridicules but then again I'm a non believer.

Look at the article.

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Husni said the pyramid, five metres (16 foot) tall, is believed to have been 15 metres tall when it was first built for Queen Sesheshet, the mother of King Teti who founded the 6th Dynasty of Egypt's Old Kingdom.
Not even that big 16 feet tall.

And its not as old as the start of the civilization there.
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Ancient Egypt was an ancient civilization of eastern North Africa, concentrated along the lower reaches of the Nile River in what is now the modern state of Egypt. The civilization coalesced around 3150 BC[1] with the political unification of Upper and Lower Egypt under the first pharaoh, and it developed over the next three millennia.
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Old Aug 9th, 2009, 6:46 PM   #7
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It isn't necessarily how old the pyramids are that mean aliens built them. The size of the blocks used for most of the pyramids and other structures from ancient civilizations lead many to believe those people got help from aliens.

Some blocks used for building weighed 1,100 tons. Even today, we don't know how to move 600 ton cut stone.
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It isn't necessarily how old the pyramids are that mean aliens built them. The size of the blocks used for most of the pyramids and other structures from ancient civilizations lead many to believe those people got help from aliens.

Some blocks used for building weighed 1,100 tons. Even today, we don't know how to move 600 ton cut stone.
Interesting I found this with almost no search time.

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It is sometimes claimed that the Thunder Stone is the "largest stone ever moved by man." This stone was not only tremendously large, but was also effectively moved 6 km (4 miles) overland to the Gulf of Finland by manpower alone; no animals or machines were used. It was then transported by boat up the Neva, and subsequently to its current site. Due to the large size of the rock, the easiest way to measure its mass is to calculate it. Its dimensions before being cut, according to the fall 1882 edition of La Nature were 7 x 14 x 9 m. Based on the density of granite, its mass was determined to be around 1500 tonnes.[7] Falconet had some of this cut away to change the rock to its current wave-like shape, leaving the finished, stylized pedestal weighing slightly less. This still leaves it the largest when compared to other large, sculpted stones:
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Old Aug 9th, 2009, 7:15 PM   #9
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I wonder if in 2000 years our children will look at our scientific accomplishments and claim that we actually were constantly helped by allies. Because there is no way that we could have build the space shuttle on our own.
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Old Aug 9th, 2009, 7:25 PM   #10
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I guess I don't under stand why you think that? Why does 4300 years old mean that aliens did it? Do you think that humans can build pyramids and need alien hover cars and other tech in order to do it? Its been shown how huge blocks could be maneuvered by human and animal power using simple leverage techniques. The idea that aliens built the pyramids is ridicules but then again I'm a non believer.
The whole notion that aliens built the pyramids, or even assisted, is backed by people who just don't have any understanding of ancient technology or society. It happens all the time that people put little faith in our ancestors and their abilities to think. Modern engineering comes from the astute mind of Archimedes, a Greek mathematician and engineer from the third century BC. As you say, it's merely a task of applying proper leverage, which is what Archimedes is most famous for. Archimedes came up with simple and complex means to create machines using weight, pulleys, and leverage.

One must understand human history and technological innovations throughout the ages in order to see this picture. Modern construction machines have difficulty constructing pyramids on par with Egypt's and megaliths like Stonehenge because that isn't what they're built for. Using ancient techniques people can reconstruct megaliths like Stonehenge much easier than relying on modern technology. Why? The answer should be obvious. Modern machines aren't designed to build ancient megalithic structures. Our machines are designed to build skyrises and the likes. Hell, even modern bridges don't measure up to ancient ones, which is why they are under constant maintenance or they'll collapse. Cost-cutting, something the ancients didn't do.


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Not even that big 16 feet tall.
Keep in mind this pyramid is believed to have originally been fifteen meters tall after construction was completed. That's nearly fifty feet. It's pretty sizable for dating roughly back to 2700 BC. To put things in historical perspective, it was around 2700 BC that cuneiform, the first known written language, appeared. Egyptian hieroglyphs appeared within a century of Mesopotamian cuneiform, and as it turns it they are much more intricate, even in their earlier forms. However, we're still talking about a primitive written language. Pyramid-type structures have been around much longer than written language, the oldest discovered being the ziggurats of southern Mesopotamia. It is believe by palaeoanthropologists that these pyramid-type structures were meant to mimic mountains--that is, the ancients believe their gods were in the sky and therefore a mountaintop was closer to the sky than a valley, thus ziggurats were built to mimic mountaintops so that the ensi were closer to their gods.

Sorry for the rant, but I felt it was relevant. What I'm driving at here is that humans didn't need help from technologically astute extraterrestrials because the methods used were ingenious but also primitive.
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This sounds very great and interesting stuff, and this thing makes some curiosity and a kind of quest that one should provoke an urge to discover and explore these hidden wonders of the earth. This ancient pyramid is of utmost importance and a huge worth in the modern history and it is the best destination for the travel freaks to explore their curiosity and inside quest.
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