America 2004 Is Germany 1930

[prezhorusin04]

America 2004
Is
Germany 1930
Norman D. Livergood

We who live in the post-World War II period possess an immensely valuable symbol, even if we don't understand it or use it effectively: the example of Nazi Germany.
"The German experiment, except to those who are its victims, is particularly interesting, and, like the offer of a strong man to let himself be vivisected, should make a great contribution to political science. For the Germans are the most gifted and most highly educated people who ever devoted the full strength of a modern state to stopping the exchange of ideas; they are the most highly organized people who ever devoted all the coercive power of government to the abolition of their own intellectual life; they are the most learned people who ever pretended to believe that the premises and the conclusion of all inquiry may be fixed by political fiat."

Walter Lippmann. (1936), The Good Society

The 2004 election revealed that American citizens are as intellectually and morally incompetent as the Germans in 1930. Such incompetence and ignorance always lead to tyranny. The United States is exactly at the same point in national degradation as the German nation in the 1930s when Hitler assumed absolute power and began his regime of mass murder and war crimes against the people of the world.
We've been conditioned to see Germany under Hitler as an unquestionably horrible example of dictatorial tyranny and inhuman barbarity--and to see our present American culture as completely opposite to that of Nazi Germany. And we like to think that if a tyranny such as that in Germany under the Nazi regime were present and growing in America we'd unquestionably be able to see it.

So it's a shock when we realize: most people living in Nazi Germany didn't see the tyranny! They thought it was the best time of their lives!

Milton Mayer's book, They Thought They Were Free, concerns Germans still living after World War II who had been members of the Nazi Party. Mayer came to know them and studied their lives and attitudes.
"As we know Nazism, it was a naked, total tyranny which degraded its adherents and enslaved its opponents and adherents alike; terrorism and terror in daily life, private and public; brute personal and mob injustice at every level of association . . .

"These nine ordinary Germans [who lived in Nazi Germany] knew it otherwise, and they still know it otherwise.

"An autocracy? [they say] Yes, of course . . . But a tyranny, as you Americans use the term? Nonsense."




How could Germans living under Hitler's National Socialism not have seen what it was? How did their lack of social and personal awareness make them blind to their reality?

How could Americans now possibly be living under a creeping dictatorship and not know it? And how could we not only not see a police state condition but actually think we're living in complete freedom?
Because most of us don't WANT to know what's going on. We've lost the ability to think critically about political, economic, and social dangers confronting us.

If we have a job--as most people did in Nazi Germany--if the political-economic system seems stable--as it does in America--then that's all we want to know.



MUCH MORE:
http://www.hermes-press.com/germany1930.htm

[RebornXmetalhead]

Very interesting.

It's true; people don't want to know. They're happy with what they have, and they flame whoever comes in with any knowledge about what's really happening...

Good post.

[stewey]

There is a huge amount of difference between 1930 Germany and the USA. Now I remember why I stopped coming to this forum.

[Wednesday]

keep preaching it prez, i will be noisy too

of course there are differences stewey, and ill concede that we are being alarmist

but if it makes people stop and think about whats going on, then its worth it

[stewey]

Originally Posted by Wednesday

keep preaching it prez, i will be noisy too

of course there are differences stewey, and ill concede that we are being alarmist

but if it makes people stop and think about whats going on, then its worth it

That is a good point.

[Kohler]

I cannot in my wildest dreams see America becoming Nazi Germany... The people in that society lied too, yes. Are we being lied to... most likely.........

But the people were too skeptical and afraid to do anything about it. I can't say for sure

(because my opinions on the subject are based on what I have learned. none of us were actually there, and therefore nobody can be so sure how it really was to live in nazi germany),

but I think that if the American government began putting people into concentration camps in todays society the people would not sit back and let it happen, unlike when we allowed the government to do it to Japanese Americans during WWII. (Sorry if that is a little off base) Back then the people really put all of their faith into the president, and every word he said; just as the german people really put all of their trust into Hitler. I do not think that America today puts forth even 40% faith in our leaders. The minute they would begin putting people into 'camps', a group of angry Americans somewhere out there would revolt. would a revolt actually do anything. Probally not... but it would be a start.

"How could Americans now possibly be living under a creeping dictatorship and not know it? "

Well in a little less then four years if we wake up without the right to vote, and secret police at your door arresting you for speaking out against the president, then we can safely say we are under a dictatorship. These forums are living proof that we are a free nation. I highly doubt that if the internet existed in the 1930s, Hitler would allow the Germans to ridicule him over the web.



I can see where you are coming from, but I dont understand how anyone can possibly compare America to the nazi's. The closest that America has ever been to being a dictatorship was while we were at war against them... long, long ago. Even then... we were still free. Now we are still free. The day we won't be free is the day that terrorism takes over.

--Kohler

[Wednesday]

Originally Posted by Kohler

but I think that if the American government began putting people into concentration camps in todays society the people would not sit back and let it happen

by the time they start dragging people from their homes it will be too late

it is my opinion that people think it just CANT happen here, but i dont think we are immune

[Kohler]

i agree that anything can happen. i read an article somewhere that there are over 200? empty concentration camps set up throughout the country, with paid security and no prisoners.

ever hear of trackmars? i think that is what they are called. they are little sticky things that glow in the dark that the government supposively puts on the back of road signs. they supposively direct you to concentration camps if you know how to read them. i've actually seen them before. i would just like to think that they are not instructions on how to get to the nearest concentration camp.

does anybody know what i am talking about?

[Kohler]

so far i've seen one sign with them in new jersey.

but i went to austin, texas this summer. i saw a bajillion of signs with these things on them. i heart almost stopped beating when i saw it. i dont know why, i guess it was just the thought that nearby there could be an empty concentration camp waiting for innocent people.

but again, its all theory. i like to assume that it isnt true.

[Wednesday]

[stewey]

Originally Posted by Kohler

so far i've seen one sign with them in new jersey.

but i went to austin, texas this summer. i saw a bajillion of signs with these things on them. i heart almost stopped beating when i saw it. i dont know why, i guess it was just the thought that nearby there could be an empty concentration camp waiting for innocent people.

but again, its all theory. i like to assume that it isnt true.

The government does have a lot of stuff ready "just in case". There are nuclear bombs just waiting to go off, which are capable of killing billions of people.

As for the signs thing, I doubt it, but it could be true. Just seems unlikely that the government would need to give directions like that, when if you knew how to read them it would just be easier to know where they are. Also, the road construction crews would know what is up. Again, I could be wrong.

[emperorx1984]

It is really sad to see how stupid the majority of Americans are, Hitler's rise to power came from the people of Germany, same way with President Bush, the power lies within the people, maybe this says something about the people of our nation. . . .

[WasteLandWa|2rior]

Originally Posted by emperorx1984

It is really sad to see how stupid the majority of Americans are, Hitler's rise to power came from the people of Germany, same way with President Bush, the power lies within the people, maybe this says something about the people of our nation. . . .

or about people in general...

[stewey]

Originally Posted by emperorx1984

It is really sad to see how stupid the majority of Americans are, Hitler's rise to power came from the people of Germany, same way with President Bush, the power lies within the people, maybe this says something about the people of our nation. . . .

You are an idiot.

[prezhorusin04]

Stew

There is a huge amount of difference between 1930 Germany and the USA. Now I remember why I stopped coming to this forum.

Awww, then why did you come back?? Just kidding. And i kinda apologize for just telling you that you had your head up your arse in another thread..:)

Wednesday

keep preaching it prez, i will be noisy too

of course there are differences stewey, and ill concede that we are being alarmist

but if it makes people stop and think about whats going on, then its worth it

Hey Thanks Wednesday. Good to have a fellow team mate of free thought and free speech! Making people think about things is what it's really all about..(So long as they eventually come to some conclusions of their own from it..) Hope to keep seeing you here at AO..!!


Kohler

ever hear of trackmars? i think that is what they are called. they are little sticky things that glow in the dark that the government supposively puts on the back of road signs. they supposively direct you to concentration camps if you know how to read them. i've actually seen them before. i would just like to think that they are not instructions on how to get to the nearest concentration camp.

does anybody know what i am talking about?

i think i posted this here before, but here it is again dude..There are about 800 known Concentration Camps set up in the US. But think about it. Every Prison, mall, and warehouse in the country could be turned into one of these things in the event of a "holocaust".

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Secretly embedded codes like these are part of "Operation Garden Plot" where U.S. forces/National Guard and *Partnership* NATO/UN military will police and patrol our streets and highways during MARTIAL LAW. Detention areas, and facilities with massive air-lifts are planned to relocate the populace to "safe zones" during a bio/chem or nuclear attack.



Sign Codes- EXPOSED! The truth behind the mystery.
The Department of Transportation has been lying and is deeply involved in covert military operations nationwide. "Highly reflective" markers of different variety began appearing on the backs of road signs across America with the explanation forwarded that the D.O.T. were "dating" road signs for sinage replacement and warranty purposes. "Free Indeed Research" has challenged this claim and has proven these road sign dating operations a "FAKE"! These markers are in reality, universal military directional code devices, *TACMARS*, verified by military personnel who have seen them being used by multi-national U.N. "PEACEKEEPERS", to target vital sites, facilities and resources to be confiscated and used during a National Emergency. More startling information has been disclosed that the "fronts" of the road signs contain embedded codes as well and that our entire sign system has been cleverly altered and is shifting from a word based system to a "European" style complex of pictorials, images, color codes, and a variety of "ARROW" configurations!
The following photos are samples of the codings deciphered by researchers through over 4 years of painstaking study of the markers and their configurations, target sites, and photo analysis. Our conclusive report of this phenomenon appears to be the final stages of a complex military plan called "OPERATION GARDEN PLOT" also known as, "UNITED STATES CIVIL DISTURBANCE PLAN 55-2". This unclassified military plan involves the handling of civil disturbances through massive relocations of the populace via airlifts, mass transit, and rail to "SAFE ZONES" away from affected areas under MARTIAL LAW. As you view this website, may you be alerted to the dangers that may soon be unfolding. This kind of coding has been observed in many war-torn nations overseas and is linked to UN/NATO military.


Much More:
http://www.tackamarks.freeservers.com/photo3.html

[prezhorusin04]

MickMeister Supreme

Prez is AO's resident underground conspiracy theorist. He has the repsect of many, and the appreciation of but a few. While he may post alarming material that most intelligent ppl would immediately disregard for any number of valid reasons, we like prez and enjoy his material with great gusto.

awwww, thanks Micky..I luvs ya too buddy!!!

[stewey]

That is quite an interesting link there Prez, I shall chekc into it more tomorrow. It wouldn't shock me actually, the government spends money stupider than that.

And apology accepted, I understand how things can be on web boards hehe

[Rage_Garden]

In our modern era would an advanced military ever need a system of refelective stickers on road signs just to get a base or camp? A map is always useful, not say that I disregard the whole thing yet but c'mon, GPS! I'll have to check some road signs around here anyways.

In our modern era would an advanced military ever need a system of refelective stickers on road signs just to get a base or camp? A map is always useful, not say that I disregard the whole thing yet but c'mon, GPS! I'll have to check some road signs around here anyways.

I concur, why the hell would the government be using stickers on the back of road signs? But I have to admit I am curious, gonna check it out.